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Hi casper , You wrote: you can install Austrumi along with Windows. dual boot... Yes,that's what I'd like to do,but it may prove harder than I thought.Yeah,yeah, I was talking ...
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    Hi casper,

    You wrote:
    you can install Austrumi along with Windows. dual boot...
    Yes,that's what I'd like to do,but it may prove harder than I thought.Yeah,yeah, I was talking "big" before,doing this and that.
    I should have said ,I would like to do so and so.

    So this is what I want to do:
    1.Install Austrumi to a partition on my HD
    2.Install it also on a USB
    3.Configure it to English,image it to ISO,then burn it to CD,
    so when it boots up,I just get the English version.

    Here are the questions (problems):
    1.A.Installation:From what I could find out there is no installation file.
    B.What do I need to do to make the partition bootable for Austrumi?
    C.What do I add to my existing BOOT.INI ?
    (I already triple-boot:XP Pro,XP Pro OEM (test purposes),Win 2000 and sometimes SAFEBOOT in either one of the 3,which actually makes it quadruple boot options.)
    (Divided over 2 physical drives (6 logical drives)
    D.What or how do I edit in the Austrumi files/folders?
    The ISOLINUX Folder contains ISOLINUX.CFG see below
    .................................................. .............
    default austrumi
    prompt 1
    timeout 100
    display message.msg

    label austrumi
    kernel bzImage
    APPEND initrd=initrd.gz cdcache dolivecd rw init=/linuxrc root=/dev/ram0 load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 ramdisk_start=0 4

    label al
    kernel bzImage
    APPEND initrd=initrd.gz cdcache dolivecd rw init=/linuxrc root=/dev/ram0 load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 ramdisk_start=0 4
    .................................................. ..............
    2.A.How do I make a USB Flash drive bootable for Austrumi?
    B.How do I load it to the USB drive so it will boot?(I know I have to set my BIOS to include USB boot),but apart from that,
    do I have to make any changes?

    In the 2 installs above,will Austrumi still use a ramdisk or should it?

    3.Creating an English Live CD.
    Can the files be edited to do this?
    Meaning:I copy the present files from the CD-R to a folder on my HD.Edit them,create an ISO file and then burn to a new CD again?

    As you can see,we've opened "a can of worms"

    Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

    Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchieLNX
    As you can see,we've opened "a can of worms"
    haha ! lets take these one by one.

    Quote Originally Posted by DutchieLNX
    1.A.Installation:From what I could find out there is no installation file.
    B.What do I need to do to make the partition bootable for Austrumi?
    C.What do I add to my existing BOOT.INI ?
    (I already triple-boot:XP Pro,XP Pro OEM (test purposes),Win 2000 and sometimes SAFEBOOT in either one of the 3,which actually makes it quadruple boot options.)
    (Divided over 2 physical drives (6 logical drives)
    D.What or how do I edit in the Austrumi files/folders?
    The ISOLINUX Folder contains ISOLINUX.CFG see below
    install Austrumi and select 'Boot sector of 'root' partition' as Boot Loader's install location.
    check this link to add an entry for Austrumi in boot.ini file.
    you can remaster ISO image through 'remaster' in Austrumi's Menu -- Tool -- 'remaster'






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    Hi casper,

    Thanks for sticking with me and for your patience and willingness to tackle this.

    Now,this may very well be a stupid question,but when you say "install" ,do you mean copy the files of the created Live CD to a partition on my harddrive?
    (A free NTFS formatted partition is avalable on HD 2 -part 4)
    or do you mean, burn the downloaded Live CD iso file to this partition?

    I think I can manage the other advice.

    I'm sorry,as usual,I got interrupted again,so I'll have to get back to you a little later.

    Peter.

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    Hi !
    Now,this may very well be a stupid question,but when you say "install" ,do you mean copy the files of the created Live CD to a partition on my harddrive?
    i mean, install Austrumi like any other Linux distro. Austrumi needs atleast 1GB disk space in ext3 format. you can use GParted to create/resize/format partitions.
    you dont have to burn .iso image or anything like that. just boot up from Austrumi LiveCD and click on 'install HDD' option in Menu. select correct Partition and 'Boot sector of root partition' as GRUB location. after installation check the link i posted in last post and follow instruction to add an entry for Austrumi on Windows Boot Loader.






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    Thanks casper,
    Very useful info.It shows you what a total "noob" I am,
    I may as well admit it
    I help other seniors with their computer (Windows) problems,
    but I can't help myself
    (One of the reasons I get interrupted so often)

    Anyway, the link to GParted is very useful,because it also shows info about Live USB,which I was also asking about.

    With everything going on,it looks like this is going to be my weekend project.I'll post the results and hope to "see" you after.
    It will give you a break

    Have a great weekend.

    Pete.

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    i am glad i could help you. keep posting here...

    Have a great weekend.
    same to you man !
    Good Luck !



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    Hi casper,

    Finally I'm back.Sorry it took so long,but I ran into all kinds of snags,some I resolved,some still there.
    One thing though, I did manage to install Austrumi and I can boot from it or get the Linux boot screen and boot into Windows.
    Not bad for a rank newbie

    Things I ran into:
    1.Format for Austrumi partition is ext2 not ext3.
    2.Austrumi uses LILO not GRUB.
    I'm not loose on either one,so I suppose it made no difference
    but I had already formatted to ext3 with GParted.
    GParted does a great job,but I found it very slow.
    It took well over 12 min to "scan devices".Is that normal?
    3.Bootpart did not work for me as suggested in this link http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/401236-post13.html
    1.
    download BootPart and unzip it in C: Drive of Windows.
    and
    3. type 'bootpart' to see a list of the partitions, as shown in the example below:
    C:\>bootpart
    What is needed in XP is to RUN cmd (bring up console window)
    but the full path needs to be typed: C:\bootpart.exe
    What I found in XP is, that it responds better to the command line ,if BootPart is extracted to the system32 folder.
    Then you can just type the command. (bootpart ,bootpart list, msconfig etc)

    Also Bootpart was creating the bootsect.lnx under Documents and Settings, Admin or User (Me,resulting in a no boot for Austrumi.
    Once I discovered that I move it to C:\,which did the job.

    Not at any time did I lose bootup,even when the boot.ini was corrupted.So no blue screens
    XP just resorted to boot from the boot.ini in C:\WINDOWS.

    However,I think GParted or XP, introduced a funny thing:
    It somehow made 2 more drives:The linux partition is listed as
    a CD drive and an existing Data 1 partition was duplicated and
    now shows 2 drives as Data 1.
    The second one is phantom,because the total is more than the actual harddrive.But I can't delete it.
    Anyway I'll work on that.

    So,sofar so good,Austrumi boots fine and so do the other OSs.
    I may write a summary in my next post.

    Thanks for all you input.

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    Well Done !
    1.Format for Austrumi partition is ext2 not ext3.
    Austrumi supports ext3 too. but i could be wrong coz its been a long time since i used/installed it.

    GParted does a great job,but I found it very slow.
    It took well over 12 min to "scan devices".Is that normal?
    the best thing about GParted is, it defrags harddisk before partitioning. 12 minutes is normal. all depends on size of harddisk and data stored in it.

    2.Austrumi uses LILO not GRUB.
    Austrumi's default boot loader is Lilo and it has an option for GRUB too. i always prefer GRUB coz its very easy to use.

    What is needed in XP is to RUN cmd (bring up console window)
    but the full path needs to be typed: C:\bootpart.exe
    thats strange. we dont have to type 'extensions' for executable files in Windows. it might be possible that C:\ is not listed in the PATH variable.

    It somehow made 2 more drives:The linux partition is listed as
    a CD drive and an existing Data 1 partition was duplicated and
    now shows 2 drives as Data 1.
    even i encountered similar problem a few days earlier after Windows Automatic Updater installed a few updates. i restored to last check point and its ok now.

    The second one is phantom,because the total is more than the actual harddrive.But I can't delete it.
    Anyway I'll work on that.
    hmmm.... do let me know...



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    Hi casper,

    Well Done !
    Thanks,that's what I thought

    Austrumi supports ext3 too.
    Possibly,but on install it requested to be ext2 format.
    (I was not going to argue with that )

    Austrumi's default boot loader is Lilo and it has an option for GRUB too. i always prefer GRUB coz its very easy to use.
    You're right,I found out about GRUB later.
    I didn't check the version,but I suppose it's the "Legacy" version.I don't think they used GRUB v2 yet.
    Have you used v2?

    thats strange. we dont have to type 'extensions' for executable files in Windows. it might be possible that C:\ is not listed in the PATH variable.
    You're right,it was not listed and I added that since your comment.
    On the other hand,it wasn't surprising since most,if not all items relating to the command line are located in the System32 folder.

    I'm not too keen to do a System Restore,since it would wipe out all my efforts
    I'll try to solve it another way.

    One other point:WinXP is most peculiar in handling assignment of drive letters.
    Example:HDD 1 (or 0,if you will) has 2 partitions C:\ and F:\,
    D:\ and E:\ being CD drives.
    HDD 2 has 4 partitions:G:\,H:\,I:\ and J:\
    This when viewed being in C:\ in Windows explorer.
    However,when in "G:\" , it shows as being in E:\ (F,G and H being the other partitions and the CD drives are tacked on at the end and show as I;\ and J:\.
    How to confuse people
    At times I don't know what drive I'm in.
    I just go by the name I gave them.
    So I have to be careful what I delete.

    Also XP doesn't show any data on the Linux drive.
    However I found a few apps that can read the data:
    1.Ext2 Installable File system
    http://www.fs-driver.org/
    2.Linux Reader
    http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
    3.Another Ext2 IFS
    http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
    There are more and I think there is one that can read & write.

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    i used fs-driver earlier. you can read/write in Linux partitions through it. it mounts Linux partition in Windows and assign it a drive letter. you can transfer more that 4GB filesize through it.





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