Help needed..

[Nabaachy]

hi.
Im new for linux and im using fedora core 6. Iam trying to update my default kernel 2.6.18-1.2798.fc6xen to 2.6.20-1.2948.fc6.i686. i have downloaded this rpm file and tried a couple of times to install it by searching the internt. but no luck. can someone please give me a step by step method to do this. I want to update it because i cant mount my NTFS partition. i installed ntfs-3g from the terminal and tried to mount the partition, but it gives me a warning that says the kernel doest support......something like that. can anyone help me please. thanks in advance

[cheesecake42]

can you reproduce the exact warning and post it here? I don't see why that version of the kernel wouldn't allow read/write of ntfs

[the bassinvader]

hmmm that does seem strange seeing as your rpm is distro specific.

I thought i'd tag on and remark that most things that i read abut Kernel updates advise testing a new Kernel before adopting it for everyday use. So you could download yur kernel form The Linux Kernel Archives set it up in your /boot folder and add an entry for it in GRUB.... if the rpm wont work.

Of course you could look for a Kernel upgrade form a different maintainer too.

[Juan Pablo]

Did you modprobe fuse before? NTFS-3g works in userspace so you need fuse

[Nabaachy]

Hi,
thanks for the replies once again. the otherday i was playing around with the system files, and after i rebooted, i coudnt open my computer, i coundt figure out what went wrong, so i installed the os again n now its wotking. so, what should i do to mount my ntfs partition? update the kernel first or install ntfs-3g. For the above reply, i installed fuse but coudnt mount my ntfs partition, it shows a warning about the current kernel as i have mentioned earlier.but now my system is fresh and i havnt done anything yet. thought i wil ask u guys first. Im really new to linux and its kinda exciting to explorer a new os. plss do help me to get along. i would really appriciate it. thanks

[devils casper]

if your machine is conneted to internet then no need to download and install rpms manually. execute this

su -
yum -y install ntfs-3g

try to mount NTFS partition manually. i asume that /dev/hda1 is NTFS partition

su -
mkdir /media/hda1
mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/hda1  -o defaults,umask=0

check /media/hda1 folder. if mount command throw any error message, post exact error message here.

[Nabaachy]

one more thing. Do i have to install fuse before ntfs-3g? if yes, can u give me a command for that.

[devils casper]

no need to install fuse separately. just install ntfs-3g and yum will take care of all other dependent packages. thats the beauty of yum.

[Nabaachy]

hi again.
last night i installed ntfs-3g. yum is really cool.with the command u gave, it install fuse, fuse-libs and ntfs-3g.i didnt know that it can do that before.its really cool.

after that, created the mount point in /media as hda1. then i checked the ntfs partition by typing

"fdisk -l | grep NTFS".

the result was
"/dev/hda5 2432 4863 19535008+ 7 HPFS/NTFS"

so mounted the partition by givving the following command:
mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda5 /media/hda1 -o defaults,umask=0

but it it failed. the following was displayed.

$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
Failed to mount '/dev/hda5': Operation not supported
Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:

Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.

Choice 2: If you don't have Windows then you can use the 'force' option for
your own responsibility. For example type on the command line:

mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda5 /media/hda1 -o force

so i forced to mount it
mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda5 /media/hda1 -o force

then it gave me the kernel warning that i have mentioned in my first post.

$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile.
WARNING: Deficient Linux kernel detected. Some driver features are
not available (swap file on NTFS, boot from NTFS by LILO), and
unmount is not safe unless it's made sure the ntfs-3g process
naturally terminates after calling 'umount'. If you wish this
message to disappear then you should upgrade to at least kernel
version 2.6.20, or request help from your distribution to fix
the kernel problem. The below web page has more information:
NTFS-3G Read/Write Driver Support


im using a 40GB hard, divided into 2 equal partitions. before, i use to keep windows in my C drive and data in my D drive. Now im using C drive for linux and it is the D drive that i am trying to mount. or should it be in two different hard drives? because i tried to open my external hard, and when i double clicked the icon, it says "cannot mount volume".in the details it says "fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied FUSE mount point creation failed Unmounting /dev/sda1 ."

so, what should i do next, im really excited now.
thanks for the help.

[devils casper]

post the output of fdisk -l command here.