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Ok next I suggest you post the output of Code: su cat /boot/grub/menu.lst Do you have a grub config file anywhere on your system which has sucessfully booted Kubuntu? If ...
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    Ok next I suggest you post the output of
    Code:
    su
    cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
    Do you have a grub config file anywhere on your system which has sucessfully booted Kubuntu?

    If you don't ... what is the exact error message you get from trying to start Kubuntu using the DSL grub menu.

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    Here it is - still from my ubuntu -primary hard drive.

    I get you the error message in a minute - have to get to another house for the computer.

    bob@Farming:~$ sudo cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
    [sudo] password for bob:
    # menu.lst - See: grub(, info grub, update-grub(
    # grub-install(, grub-floppy(,
    # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
    # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

    ## default num
    # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
    # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
    #
    # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
    # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
    # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
    # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
    default 0

    ## timeout sec
    # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
    # (normally the first entry defined).
    timeout 10

    ## hiddenmenu
    # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
    #hiddenmenu

    Pretty colours
    color cyan/blue blue/blue

    #A splash image for the menu
    splashimage=(hd0,9)/boot/grub/splashimages/ifeverwasafire.xpm.gz

    ## password ['--md5'] passwd
    # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
    # control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
    # command 'lock'
    # e.g. password topsecret
    ## password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
    # password topsecret

    #
    # examples
    #
    # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
    # root (hd0,0)
    # makeactive
    # chainloader +1
    #
    # title Linux
    # root (hd0,1)
    # kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
    #

    #
    # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

    ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
    ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
    ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

    ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

    ## ## Start Default Options ##
    ## default kernel options
    ## default kernel options for automagic boot options
    ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
    ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
    ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
    ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
    ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
    # kopt=root=UUID=fbc2c844-12a7-4e7b-9aab-8d3300f50a2c ro

    ## Setup crashdump menu entries
    ## e.g. crashdump=1
    # crashdump=0

    ## default grub root device
    ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
    # groot=(hd0,9)

    ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
    ## e.g. alternative=true
    ## alternative=false
    # alternative=false

    ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
    ## e.g. lockalternative=true
    ## lockalternative=false
    # lockalternative=false

    ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
    ## alternatives
    ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
    # defoptions=quiet splash

    ## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
    ## e.g. lockold=false
    ## lockold=true
    # lockold=false

    ## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
    # xenhopt=

    ## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
    # xenkopt=console=tty0

    ## altoption boot targets option
    ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
    ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
    ## altoptions=(recovery) single
    # altoptions=(recovery mode) single

    ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
    ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
    ## alternative kernel options
    ## e.g. howmany=all
    ## howmany=7
    # howmany=1

    ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
    ## e.g. memtest86=true
    ## memtest86=false
    # memtest86=false

    ## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
    ## can be true or false
    # updatedefaultentry=false

    ## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
    ## can be true or false
    # savedefault=false

    ## ## End Default Options ##

    title Ubuntu 7.10, Gustsy Gibbon, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
    root (hd0,9)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=fbc2c844-12a7-4e7b-9aab-8d3300f50a2c ro quiet splash
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
    quiet

    ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

    # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
    # ones.
    title Other operating systems:
    root


    # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
    # on /dev/hda1
    title Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    root (hd0,0)
    savedefault
    makeactive
    chainloader +1



    # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
    # linux installation on /dev/hda6.
    #title Debian GNU/Linux (3.1) (on /dev/hda6)
    #root (hd0,5)
    #kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-gratis root=/dev/hda6
    #savedefault
    #boot


    # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
    # linux installation on /dev/hda7.
    title MEPIS at hda7, kernel 2.6.15-26-386 (on /dev/hda7)
    root (hd0,6)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda7 nomce quiet vga=791
    savedefault
    boot


    # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
    # linux installation on /dev/hda7.
    #title MEMTEST (on /dev/hda7)
    #root (hd0,6)
    #kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
    #savedefault
    #boot

    title Freespire Ver. 1.0.13 (on /dev/hda6)
    root (hd0,5)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-gratis root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 rootdev=0x0306 ramdisk=35392 resume2=swap:/dev/hda6:0x44000 vga=0x311 splash=silent
    initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.14-gratis.gz



    bob@Farming:~$

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    Its the grub menu.lst file for dsl we need ... if you can boot from dsl and post output then I suggest you do that otherwise you can manually mount the dsl root partition and post the output.

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    Ok, Jonathan. I've got the information.

    This is typed, not cut and pasted.


    Booting Ubuntu hardy development Kernel 26.24-12 generic

    root (hd1,4)
    filesystem is fat partition ty 0xb
    Kernel /boot/vmlinuz 2.6.24-12-generic
    root = UUIO = aa96454f-c262-4uda a38a-a12a3. 7e3f0f9ro
    quiet splash

    Error 15: File not found

    Press any key to continue


    In answer to your question concerning having been able to boot the Kubuntu on the external USB drive - no I haven't ever been able to boot it.

    Thanks a lot

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    The fat reference in the error message does not make much sense.
    Can you boot in dsl and post /boot/grub/menu.lst file contents or are you only able to post from Ubuntu?

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    Here's the menu.lst from DSL.

    I can boot into DSL, but no internet access. But I get the information through other linux applications with internet access.

    The three parts in the grub about ubuntu, hardy is what i editted in. The first part (pertaining to dsl) was what I started with.



    default 0
    timeout 10
    title DSL
    root (hd0,1)
    kernel /linux24 ramdisk_size=100000 lang=us quiet vga=791 frugal vga
    initrd /minirt24.gz

    title Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel 2.6.24-12-generic
    root (hd1,4)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-12-generic root=UUID=aa9b454f-c2b9-40de-a38a-a12a37e3f0f9 ro quiet splash
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-12-generic
    quiet

    title Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel 2.6.24-12-generic (recovery mode)
    root (hd1,4)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-12-generic root=UUID=aa9b454f-c2b9-40de-a38a-a12a37e3f0f9 ro single
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-12-generic

    title Ubuntu hardy (development branch), memtest86+
    root (hd1,4)
    kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
    quiet

    Thanks a lot

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    The DSL installation sets up (as I understand it) with a linux partition and a FAT partition. Both are apparently primaries? I made the extended partition inside the Fat partition. I don't know if that has something to do with it.

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    Code:
    default 0
    timeout 10
    title DSL
    root (hd0,1)
    kernel /linux24 ramdisk_size=100000 lang=us quiet vga=791 frugal  vga  
    initrd /minirt24.gz
    
    Does this boot option actually boot dsl?
    If it does then it looks as though the external hard drive is being considered to be the first hard drive.
    Do you have to change BIOS setting to get system to boot from the external drive?
    Last edited by Jonathan183; 04-04-2008 at 10:22 PM. Reason: Tidy up posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by marbobj View Post
    The DSL installation sets up (as I understand it) with a linux partition and a FAT partition. Both are apparently primaries? I made the extended partition inside the Fat partition. I don't know if that has something to do with it.
    Linux can be in extended partitions ... that is not what is causing the problem.

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    Yes, that grub entry boots DSL. I boot it on a newer computer. At boot I get the boot menu by pressing "ESC". With the external hooked up at boot, the USB entry shows on the boot menu. I could go to the BIOS as well.
    The DSL boots up quickly and works very well. It's a nice piece of work.

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