RH5 vsw Fedora 10

[measekite]

Fedora LiveCD seems nice but requires you to update your OS every year. That is a lot of work depending on your setup.

I know that Red Hat Enterprise 5 is supported much longer and may even be more stable.

So Here are two questions:

1. If you purchase a license for $80 can you install the software on multiple computers or do you have to buy multiple subscriptions?

2. If you choose not to buy the support subscriptions can you download the RH distro and install it free of charge or is there a subscription key that is required? If you can download it I did not see it on the Red Hat website.

[rituraj.goswami]

i really don't have the answer ro the first question but you can't download the rhel from redhat website. if yu need it then tou buy the subscriptiona and red hat gives the rhel 5 dvd for free. for the first question i think you can install it in one machine with the subscription key. ask redhat for it, but i tell you you will be lucky if you get a reply.

[hackson]

1. If you purchase a license for $80 can you install the software on multiple computers or do you have to buy multiple subscriptions?
A) Yes you can install in n number of systems, but support will be provided only for the registered machine.
2. If you choose not to buy the support subscriptions can you download the RH distro and install it free of charge or is there a subscription key that is required? If you can download it I did not see it on the Red Hat website.
A) I understand your question in this way, as you dont want to have the post-sales support from redhat or the packages given by them, this is also very much possible as today you purchase Redhat Software and user Centos Repositories for further updates, but the Redhat Inc. is no way concerned to the damage or support for the products which were not delivered from them.


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ooh, i forgot the site is click2try. A community site where it's easy to try Open Source software for free.

[coopstah13]

you can't download it without a subscription, if you don't want to pay for that, just use www.centos.org - The Community ENTerprise Operating System because it is built from the same sources as RHEL

[waterhead]

RHEL 5 was based on Fedora 6. So you should actually compare Fedora 6 to Fedora 10.

And yes, you can get RHEL 5.3-server for free. You have to register for a free 30-day trial. You will then be able to download it and get security updates for 30 days. It will continue to work after 30 days, just no more updates.

RHEL 6 will be based on Fedora 10, and is tentatively planned for release in the first quater of 2010.

[measekite]

With no security updates after 30 days I consider it worthless. Maybe Ubuntu is a better more stable OS but with a few steps back of bleeding edge.

[Felarin]

With no security updates after 30 days I consider it worthless. Maybe Ubuntu is a better more stable OS but with a few steps back of bleeding edge.

That's not right. The reason why there AREN'T security updates is because the packages in RHEL 5 are already stable as they are for the most part. As for security fixes that are still relevant, there are hundreds of them if you checked your errata/security patches at RHN. I don't see why you say there aren't.

As far as Ubuntu is concerned, it dosen't make a difference because it's still Linux at the end of the day. The kernels come from the same place.

Individual software in the repos are handled by each distribution and the software in the repo might differ. Hence, the difference in updates and update release intervals.

There are many conditions to consider before you blast people who are fixing software bugs for free. What i've listed are only a fraction of a multitude of reasons for differences between various distributions. Philosophy itself is a main factor.

[measekite]

That's not right. The reason why there AREN'T security updates is because the packages in RHEL 5 are already stable as they are for the most part. As for security fixes that are still relevant, there are hundreds of them if you checked your errata/security patches at RHN. I don't see why you say there aren't.

As far as Ubuntu is concerned, it dosen't make a difference because it's still Linux at the end of the day. The kernels come from the same place.

Individual software in the repos are handled by each distribution and the software in the repo might differ. Hence, the difference in updates and update release intervals.

There are many conditions to consider before you blast people who are fixing software bugs for free. What i've listed are only a fraction of a multitude of reasons for differences between various distributions. Philosophy itself is a main factor.

Nobody is blasting anybody. The topic is RH5 trial version only carries security update for 30 days. That was the statement. All I said is if that is the case then it does not have value for me and I would prefer Ubuntu in that case. That is not a blast but a reasonable decision on makes when doing an evaluation.

[HROAdmin26]

The topic is RH5 trial version only carries security update for 30 days. That was the statement. All I said is if that is the case then it does not have value for me and I would prefer Ubuntu in that case. That is not a blast but a reasonable decision on makes when doing an evaluation.

Comparing RHEL to Fedora is like comparing a mainframe to an E-Machine - apples to oranges. Same for RHEL vs. Ubuntu.

RHEL = *ENTERPRISE* Server OS
Fedora / Ubuntu = Community-driven *DESKTOP* OS

There are major differences in which packages are installed, what packages are available in repositories, which drivers are included, stability testing of packages/drivers, etc. The list is long.

Either you have a need for an enterprise OS (with all of the stability and support it brings) or you do not. Many people use Fedora or some other desktop OS as a server, but if you need someone to analyze a memory dump from a critical server at 4AM, you need reliable support.

Answering this simple question will define whether you can stay with a desktop Linux distro or need to move to something like SLES/RHEL.

Other more "stripped down" Linux distro's make good server OS's too - I believe Debian is listed as the preferred server OS in the LinuxForum's poll.

[Felarin]

How is a program, not having many security updates, for a period of 30 days, factoring your decision to use a program that has security updates every day, reasonable in any common sense?

Take Microsoft Windows for example. Security updates every other day. Does that make it a good piece of software? I don't think so.

Your reasonable decision is unreasonable and i did well to point it out to you. I hope you take much more into consideration next time because at the back of it all, are hardworking developers doing it in their free time. It's the least you could do.

Also, like the poster pointed out above. RHEL comes with commercial support should you purchase a proper license for it. Ubuntu, also comes with commercial support, should you purchase a proper license for it but i believe this is only for their server edition at this juncture. RHEL Desktop also comes with commercial support.

Personally, i use Fedora. It beats the crap out of Ubuntu.