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Hello. So uhm i have some problems with my OS (on my laptop) I Deciced to transfer my Linux OS to my PC but before i do this i wanted ...
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    Cannot boot UNIX:Fedora


    Hello.
    So uhm i have some problems with my OS (on my laptop)
    I Deciced to transfer my Linux OS to my PC but before i do this i wanted to upgrade on my laptop OS win 7 to win 8.
    I have formated the partition of where win 7 was installed then i wanted to make this volume bigger, so i maked the volume of Linux smaller then maked the one for where win 8 will come bigger, but i saw that this was not possible i got 2x Unallocated space.
    And i have read on some websites it was not possible to merge them. The only way was to format the full disk.
    I wanted to do this, so i was going to switch from my Win 8 os to Linux (dualboot)
    i saw the GRUB was gone, and it was automatich booting Win 8

    I deciced to download easybcd and configure there, i setuped a new GRUB but it didnt helped, i can see my Linux but when i select it its just hangs on the black scren with the cursus blinking... And the HDD LED is not loading....

    So i downloaded and burned 3 things
    ~Fedora LiveCD
    ~Win 8 (trial)
    ~GParted(i used this to decrease the volume size and make it bigger the otherone where win 8 comes)

    I have all the three on my hands right now so no need to download and burn for me.

    oh and i also want (after the grub is fixed)
    to transfer the full Linux OS to my pc (while PC is fully formated) anybody know how i do this?

    I dont want to lose my data on linux...
    btw i can see my data from LiveCD fedora, i back-uped some files, but some of them (like the Databases) was not possible due the Permission....

    Any help will be thankfull!

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    !. Only install Win 8 if you want nothing but Win 8 on your system.
    2. Install Linux as your sole system boot os.
    3. Install Windows (7 or in virtual machines under Linux.

    This will accomplish several things.

    1. Your system will be much more immune to Windows viruses and malware.
    2. If you create VM snapshots of your Windows systems, you can revert from infections instantly.
    3. You will have much more utilization of your system resources.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    Just to clarify your situation. You have installed windows 8 on your laptop which previously had (still has?) some unknown version of Linux (Fedora?) and you can successfully boot windows 8 but not your Linux install, is that correct?

    Are you now booting windows 8 with Easy BCD?
    Did you also install Grub? Don't know where Grub fits in this scenario. If you can see your data from the Fedora Live CD, you probably just need to reconfigure whichever bootloader you are trying to use. The most complete information you can get to review and/or post here for help would be the bootinfoscript which you can get at the site below:

    Boot Info Script | Free System Administration software downloads at SourceForge.net

    Read the instructions before you run the script. It will need to be run from Linux so use your Fedora Live CD.

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    !. Only install Win 8 if you want nothing but Win 8 on your system.
    2. Install Linux as your sole system boot os.
    3. Install Windows (7 or in virtual machines under Linux.

    This will accomplish several things.

    1. Your system will be much more immune to Windows viruses and malware.
    2. If you create VM snapshots of your Windows systems, you can revert from infections instantly.
    3. You will have much more utilization of your system resources.
    @Rubberman
    It sounds like your talking about Virtual Machine?
    If so i am not planning to install any virtual machine.
    I think it will be only harder for me for later, to transfer the OS to another PC.


    Just to clarify your situation. You have installed windows 8 on your laptop which previously had (still has?) some unknown version of Linux (Fedora?) and you can successfully boot windows 8 but not your Linux install, is that correct?
    Well sir... almost...
    I had previously Windows 7.
    I formated and deleted win 7 and replaced with win 8.
    But before i did this i created the volume of my Linux os smalled with GParted LiveCD so i can make the volume where win 8 come bigger.
    but this didnt worked, i got 2x Unlllocated space, and it was not possible to merge them.

    @yancek
    And yes thats correct i can sucfully boot Win 8 right now.
    like i said before, i used easyBCD to install GRUB but this is not working.
    I can see Windows 8 and Linux, but when i enter linux it justs hangs on a black screen and with a blinking cursor.

    Are you now booting windows 8 with Easy BCD?
    Nope, when i installed my windows 8 i firstly downloaded EasyBCD and i saw there was only 1 boot Entry.
    I manualy added GRUB, and the resullt was that blank screen.

    Did you also install Grub? Don't know where Grub fits in this scenario.
    Well i had before... when i had win 7... but now its gone i think...

    If you can see your data from the Fedora Live CD, you probably just need to reconfigure whichever bootloader you are trying to use.

    The most complete information you can get to review and/or post here for help would be the bootinfoscript which you can get at the site below:

    Boot Info Script | Free System Administration software downloads at SourceForge.net

    Read the instructions before you run the script. It will need to be run from Linux so use your Fedora Live CD.
    Hmm...Reconfigure... i think i dont have any grub installed right now... :/
    Do i still need to follow your step?

    Thanks alot! ;3

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    The bootinfoscript isn't going to resolve your problem but it will provide detailed information so that if you post the output here (a results.txt file), someone will be able to give you suggestions as to what the problem is and what you might do to resolve it. You need to use a Linux Live CD (your Fedora CD) to run the program. There are instructions on the page I linked to. It will show detailed information on your drives/partitions boot files and more.

    Which Linux distribtuion do you currently have installed, Fedora?

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    The bootinfoscript isn't going to resolve your problem but it will provide detailed information so that if you post the output here (a results.txt file), someone will be able to give you suggestions as to what the problem is and what you might do to resolve it. You need to use a Linux Live CD (your Fedora CD) to run the program. There are instructions on the page I linked to. It will show detailed information on your drives/partitions boot files and more.
    Aah i got it lol...
    I will try do this tonight when i got time, if its not possible to make it today i will try to do it tomorrow.
    I will post the results here.

    Which Linux distribtuion do you currently have installed, Fedora?
    Yes sir, thats correct im using Fedora.

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    i got the results....

    Boot Info Script 0.61 [1 April 2012]


    ============================= Boot Info Summary: ===============================

    => Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda.

    sda1: __________________________________________________ ________________________

    File system: swap
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:

    sda2: __________________________________________________ ________________________

    File system: ntfs
    Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7: NTFS
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD

    sda3: __________________________________________________ ________________________

    File system: ntfs
    Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7: NTFS
    Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:
    Boot files: /bootmgr /Windows/System32/winload.exe

    sda4: __________________________________________________ ________________________

    File system: ext4
    Boot sector type: -
    Boot sector info:
    Operating System: Fedora release 17 (Beefy
    Miracle) Kernel on an ()
    Boot files: /boot/grub2/grub.cfg /etc/fstab

    ============================ Drive/Partition Info: =============================

    Drive: sda __________________________________________________ ___________________

    Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes, 625142448 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

    Partition Boot Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors Id System

    /dev/sda1 2,048 104,447 102,400 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sda2 * 104,448 821,247 716,800 7 NTFS / exFAT / HPFS
    /dev/sda3 821,248 420,339,711 419,518,464 7 NTFS / exFAT / HPFS
    /dev/sda4 420,339,712 489,971,711 69,632,000 83 Linux


    "blkid" output: __________________________________________________ ______________

    Device UUID TYPE LABEL

    /dev/loop0 squashfs
    /dev/loop1 DM_snapshot_cow
    /dev/loop2 squashfs
    /dev/loop3 4e087d83-8d6a-495b-9080-d02954a98e98 ext4 _Fedora-18-x86_6
    /dev/loop4 DM_snapshot_cow
    /dev/mapper/live-osimg-min 4e087d83-8d6a-495b-9080-d02954a98e98 ext4 _Fedora-18-x86_6
    /dev/mapper/live-rw 4e087d83-8d6a-495b-9080-d02954a98e98 ext4 _Fedora-18-x86_6
    /dev/sda1 e55e636a-e437-45f9-bdce-dd2914c4a9b3 swap
    /dev/sda2 5C2438EE2438CCB0 ntfs System Reserved
    /dev/sda3 E8103BB5103B8998 ntfs
    /dev/sda4 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc ext4 _Fedora-17-x86_6
    /dev/sr0 2013-01-09-17-26-38-00 iso9660 Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is

    ========================= "ls -R /dev/mapper/" output: =========================

    /dev/mapper:
    control
    live-osimg-min
    live-rw

    ================================ Mount points: =================================

    Device Mount_Point Type Options

    /dev/mapper/live-rw / ext4 (rw,noatime,seclabel,data=ordered)
    /dev/sr0 /run/initramfs/live iso9660 (ro,relatime)


    ========================== sda4/boot/grub2/grub.cfg: ===========================

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    #
    # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
    #
    # It is automatically generated by grub2-mkconfig using templates
    # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
    #

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
    if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
    load_env
    fi
    set default="0"

    if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
    menuentry_id_option="--id"
    else
    menuentry_id_option=""
    fi

    export menuentry_id_option

    if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
    set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
    save_env saved_entry
    set prev_saved_entry=
    save_env prev_saved_entry
    set boot_once=true
    fi

    function savedefault {
    if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
    saved_entry="${chosen}"
    save_env saved_entry
    fi
    }

    function load_video {
    if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
    insmod all_video
    else
    insmod efi_gop
    insmod efi_uga
    insmod ieee1275_fb
    insmod vbe
    insmod vga
    insmod video_bochs
    insmod video_cirrus
    fi
    }

    if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
    font=unicode
    else
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,msdos3'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos3 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos3 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos3 --hint='hd0,msdos3' 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    fi
    font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
    fi

    if loadfont $font ; then
    set gfxmode=auto
    load_video
    insmod gfxterm
    set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
    set lang=en_US
    insmod gettext
    fi
    terminal_output gfxterm
    set timeout=5
    ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
    menuentry 'Fedora (3.8.11-100.fc17.x86_64)' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc' {
    load_video
    set gfxpayload=keep
    insmod gzio
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,msdos3'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos3 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos3 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos3 --hint='hd0,msdos3' 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    fi
    echo 'Loading Fedora (3.8.11-100.fc17.x86_64)'
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.11-100.fc17.x86_64 root=UUID=0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=True KEYTABLE=us rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet
    echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    initrd /boot/initramfs-3.8.11-100.fc17.x86_64.img
    }
    menuentry 'Fedora (3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64)' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc' {
    load_video
    set gfxpayload=keep
    insmod gzio
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,msdos3'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos3 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos3 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos3 --hint='hd0,msdos3' 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    fi
    echo 'Loading Fedora (3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64)'
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 root=UUID=0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=True KEYTABLE=us rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet
    echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    initrd /boot/initramfs-3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64.img
    }
    menuentry 'Fedora (3.7.9-104.fc17.x86_64)' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc' {
    load_video
    set gfxpayload=keep
    insmod gzio
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ext2
    set root='hd0,msdos3'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos3 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos3 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos3 --hint='hd0,msdos3' 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc
    fi
    echo 'Loading Fedora (3.7.9-104.fc17.x86_64)'
    linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.7.9-104.fc17.x86_64 root=UUID=0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=True KEYTABLE=us rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet
    echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
    initrd /boot/initramfs-3.7.9-104.fc17.x86_64.img
    }
    submenu 'Advanced options for Fedora Linux' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc' {
    }
    if [ "x$default" = 'Fedora Linux, with Linux 3.3.4-5.fc17.x86_64' ]; then default='Advanced options for Fedora Linux>Fedora Linux, with Linux 3.3.4-5.fc17.x86_64'; fi;
    ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ###
    ### END /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
    menuentry 'Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-D2B6F5C1B6F5A65F' {
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ntfs
    set root='hd0,msdos1'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 --hint='hd0,msdos1' D2B6F5C1B6F5A65F
    else
    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root D2B6F5C1B6F5A65F
    fi
    chainloader +1
    }
    ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
    # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
    # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
    # the 'exec tail' line above.
    ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

    ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    if [ -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
    source $prefix/custom.cfg;
    fi
    ### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    =============================== sda4/etc/fstab: ================================

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    #
    # /etc/fstab
    # Created by anaconda on Sun Dec 9 17:50:33 2012
    #
    # Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
    # See man pages fstab(5), findfs(, mount( and/or blkid( for more info
    #
    UUID=0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc / ext4 defaults 1 1
    UUID=e55e636a-e437-45f9-bdce-dd2914c4a9b3 swap swap defaults 0 0
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    =================== sda4: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================

    GiB - GB File Fragment(s)

    204.977878571 = 220.093321216 boot/grub2/grub.cfg 2
    209.019531250 = 224.433012736 boot/initramfs-3.7.9-104.fc17.x86_64.img 2
    226.967044830 = 243.704008704 boot/initramfs-3.8.11-100.fc17.x86_64.img 3
    209.136718750 = 224.558841856 boot/initramfs-3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64.img 2
    206.712844849 = 221.956227072 boot/vmlinuz-3.7.9-104.fc17.x86_64 1
    205.625446320 = 220.788641792 boot/vmlinuz-3.8.11-100.fc17.x86_64 1
    207.339614868 = 222.629216256 boot/vmlinuz-3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 1

    =============================== StdErr Messages: ===============================

    No volume groups found
    mdadm: No arrays found in config file or automatically


    Hope somebody can help me out, i realy dont want to lose my web server
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    Your Fedora grub.cfg file shows the menuentry pointing to sda3 (set root='hd0,msdos3'). Your fdisk output in the script shows that the root (/) of the Fedora filesystem including the boot files are on sda4 ('hd0,msdos4'). So that would be one reason why it would not boot. All those entries need to changed. It would also be a good idea to check that the UUID entries are correct. The bootinfoscript usually outputs that information but it is not in the results.txt you posted. You should be able to use the Fedora CD, boot it and open a terminal and login as root user and run: blkid. Check the output for sda4 to see if it is the same as the one shown in the grub.cfg file: 0735ed34-ae4b-4294-bca8-f20c9235e6fc

    If it is the same you won't need to make any changes. If sda4 is different, you need to change it to what blkid shows in its output anywhere in the grub.cfg file and reboot to test.
    Since you are using EasyBCD to boot, your entry for EasyBCD needs to be correct. If you have problems booting after making the changes above, post whatever entry you put in the EasyBCD file for Fedora.

    You could also install the Fedora Grub to the mbr and boot with Grub. The problem I see with that is your grub.cfg file is pointing to windows on sda1 which is now your swap partition so that would also need to be changed. Try making the changes to the Fedora menuentry in grub.cfg (hd0,msdos3) needs to be change to (hd0,msdos4) wherever you see it. Try rebooting and see what happens and also verify the correct UUID first.

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    oh god... thats bad...
    After deleting and formating my windows 7 OS something went wrong i guess...
    Anyway...
    I will follow your steps once again, after i get home today.
    I realy want to appreciate you, for what ur doing for me, thanks alot ! big love from meh, heh.

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    Hi All,
    Can someone please help me>
    My Ultimate goal: dual boot fedora 18(120GB) and windows7(400GB)
    System: toshiba AMD 8 64bit, 1.9 GHz

    a. I have partitioned the hard drive that came with the toshiba laptop
    b. I Downloaded the fedora18 installation disk
    c. I Copied the ISO image disk contents to a DVD
    d. Tried to boot the laptop using the DVD so that I could execute linux installation

    Problem: I do not get the opportunity to access the linux installation DVD. The DVD will not boot. Windows keeps booting instead.

    I tried to modify the BIOS so that the system would boot from the DVD drive. NO success, the system still keeps starting up Windows7! As a result, I have no chance to start on any of the linux fedora installation steps.



    Thanks for advice.
    Xthought

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