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    Are These Specs OK for A Server?


    Hello,

    I am thinking of using a PC at home as a server. May I ask for your thoughts regarding it's specs please?

    I may use it for Data Storage, and maybe printer and other simple tasks that I can learn along the way.

    Thank you.

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    This machine is perfectly fine for use as a file server, web server, email server, logon server and pretty much anything that works at LAN-speed.

    If you want to do some serious number crunching, then you may want to beef things up a bit, but it should all be fine for normal server tasks. Until recently my server ran CentOS 5 on a dual PIII with 128MB ram, serving files from a 2.5TB LVM with no problems, so your dual-core 64 bit Athlon is more than capable.

    If you're using this for file storage, you may want to review the amount of hard disk space on the machine to be certain that it's big enough for your needs (but big hard disks are really cheap these days).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxoff View Post
    This machine is perfectly fine for use as a file server, web server, email server, logon server and pretty much anything that works at LAN-speed.

    If you want to do some serious number crunching, then you may want to beef things up a bit, but it should all be fine for normal server tasks. Until recently my server ran CentOS 5 on a dual PIII with 128MB ram, serving files from a 2.5TB LVM with no problems, so your dual-core 64 bit Athlon is more than capable.

    If you're using this for file storage, you may want to review the amount of hard disk space on the machine to be certain that it's big enough for your needs (but big hard disks are really cheap these days).
    Thank you very much Roxoff!

    For file server. I am plan to buy a 2TB external HD to have sufficient space. Part of the HD is going to be used as a Back-up Storage for all my "important" data. (Movies actually ) Darn! Takes so much space those DVDs

    It would be really great if I can eventually learn how to administer a web server, email server, and a logon server.

    Another concern is... would I be able to use the same PC for ordinary jobs like any other home PCs? Just in case the wife and kids might want to browse on the net, can they use it? Or should I put it off and just make a separate partition for regular PC use such as browsing/FB and other things they might want to do?

    Thanks again!
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    A couple of things to consider doing:

    1. Add some RAM. It will help performance by enabling the system to cache more data.
    2. Get an esata board and esata external drive for your extern disc(s). The performance over USB is going to be 4-10x better, especially for writes. You can get a 4-port esata raid controller for $50-80 USD that runs well on Linux.
    3. Get a separate external drive and enclosure. IE, get a bare drive, and a good enclosure like some of the ones from StarTech.com that provide a fan as well as USB and eSata connections. I get the quick-insert enclosures (about $50USD), which eliminate the need for any screwdrivers to install or replace your disc.

    One of the reasons for #3 for servers is that external drive packages typically have a 1 year warranty and use commodity drives that may or may not last. A factory-fresh bare drive will come with a 3-5 year warranty, and some manufacturers like Seagate will overnite you a replacement w/ paid return shipping label for a few $$ - less than you would pay for shipping alone.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    Thanks Rubberman for all the info. I will be definitely getting those things as the money comes.

    But if I may ask, assuming I start with what I have now? What would be my first steps please?

    - I have available 3 Laptops & 1 PC at home
    - PC was used to configure the router and is now connected by cable to it.
    - 3 Laptops are on wireless.
    - Do I have to make a separate partition in my PC/server? Fyi, it already has two existing linux partitions. Fedora 10 and Ubuntu 9.10. I would prefer to use Fedora 10 for this PC though since I have encountered some driver issues with Ubuntu

    Thank you!
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    I've had better luck so far with Ubuntu 9.04 vs. 9.10 which has had some reported issues. I don't run Fedora so I can't say whether this is better or not. For my workstation/server, I run CentOS, currently 5.4. This is the community version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I run Ubuntu 9.04 on all of my laptops (2 laptops and 1 netbook), and have had exactly zero problems with any of them.

    Myself, I prefer to single-boot my systems. If I need to run another OS, I use VirtualBox and run them in a virtual machine. That way I have many fewer issues with regard to software updates, drivers, etc.

    So, my position is for a wired workstation/server, run an enterprise server distribution such as CentOS. For mobile systems (laptops, netbooks, etc) run a more up-to-date distribution such as Ubuntu or Fedora which will deal with wireless devices and web cameras more effectively.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    For my workstation/server, I run CentOS, currently 5.4. This is the community version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
    CentOS it is then!

    Myself, I prefer to single-boot my systems. If I need to run another OS, I use VirtualBox and run them in a virtual machine. That way I have many fewer issues with regard to software updates, drivers, etc.
    Single boot it is! Run everything else in VirtualBox.

    So, my position is for a wired workstation/server, run an enterprise server distribution such as CentOS. For mobile systems (laptops, netbooks, etc) run a more up-to-date distribution such as Ubuntu or Fedora which will deal with wireless devices and web cameras more effectively.
    Yes! Yes! Yes! Gosh is exciting!
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    Nujinini, what HAVE you been drinking? Anyway, I'm glad you seem to get my point. Servers - server OS. Laptops - up-to-date OS. Personally, I like both, but for very different reasons. I love CentOS on my workstation. It handles all my server hardware, as well as handles all my video processing, software development and design, and database needs perfectly, though it doesn't deal with a lot of wireless stuff very well. I also love Ubuntu on my laptops - mostly because ALL of my wireless and webcam hardware works without any driver installation or configuration at all, including my Sprint broadband wireless modem, bluetooth USB device, and brand-x webcam.

    So, since my workstation server is hard-wired to my router, wireless is pretty much unnecessary. Since I don't run an enterprise class database (Oracle) on my laptops, that isn't an issue. I guess what I am getting at is that one should use the proper tool for the job at hand.
    Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real time.
    Just remember, Semper Gumbi - always be flexible!

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    Actually your point was crystal clear Rubberman and I cannot agree with you more.

    Since I'm still trying to learn and understand servers, it would be more to my advantage if my server can be dedicated only for that purpose. And besides, I was not successful in making the wireless of CentOS work a few months back. I guess to keep it on cable as a server would be it's best use.

    Hehehe, I'm not drinking anything. Just excited. But now that you mentioned it? Have a Coke Zero, on me

    I would be reformatting the PC anytime. Would you recommend I do a full install and upgrade of CentOS? If I'm not mistaken, a server should only have the minimum softwares installed to keep it fast & lite? Or something like that.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nujinini View Post
    I would be reformatting the PC anytime. Would you recommend I do a full install and upgrade of CentOS? If I'm not mistaken, a server should only have the minimum softwares installed to keep it fast & lite? Or something like that.
    Actually, I'd use the network install CD for CentOS - it's a much smaller download, and it installs packages straight from the repositories, so they're already the latest version - there's no big update cycle afterwards. The only drawback is that it asks for the path to a mirror for the CentOS files. If you go down this route, make a note of a mirror local to you and where it keeps its CentOS files before you begin the install.

    You're right about keeping it light too - install only the barest minimum of packages that you can get away with, you may want to start with absolutely nothing plus a simple Gnome desktop (this will allow you to use a graphical desktop while you set the thing up) and then add the packages you need with yum afterwards.
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