Humdain

Hello, I am new to these forums and also a bit new to linux so bare with me if you would .

Anyways, heres the overview:

I recently made a partition and installed SuSe linux, and everything seemed to go well. I logged on to my linux account and went around, and then I logged out to get on my windows partition. So I proceeded to get on the windows partition, and I recieved the error "Missing file hal.dll" and it rebooted me. So I got back on linux and got the file from the internet and tried to place it in the file and it gave me the error "You do not have permission". I then tried to place the file in the directory using the konsole, but I got the error that it is a read only directory.

So, basically, my question is, is there any way to access my windows partition and just place this file in? (So close yet so far )

devils casper

HI !!!


you can't write in NTFS. if you have FAT32 partition, then copy file there, boot up Windows and copy file in NTFS.
there are a few third party packages which allows writing in NTFS too, but its "Use at your own risk".... i wont suggest you that....


EDIT : ntfs-3g works fine. till now i didn't get any complaints or problems. you can trust ntfs-3g.



.... casper ....

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oldcpu

As Casper noted, it is difficult to write to NTFS from Linux. At least until recently.

The new free opensouce "ntfs-3g" driver (and I have NO affiliation) is very reliable and very fast. I've been using it for many weeks (since its mid-summer release) without a problem. It does have a few querks, which still need be resolved, but they are easy to work around.

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/f...&forum_id=2697

Thus far only a 32-bit version exists. The driver is purportedly very reliable, and very fast in the testing that has taken place to date.

There is a plan to integrate it into the linux-ntfs project:
http://www.linux-ntfs.org/

I managed to get it working on my SuSE-10.0 and 10.1 PCs, although I can't get it to load automatically via the FSTAB (either due to my boot setup for "fuse", or, to a known bug in the ntfs-3g driver). Instead, as root, one can type a command (or two) from a bash shell, and that enables the driver:

ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /windows/E -o silent,umask=0,local=en_US.utf8

and if that gives a failure to mount (and it usually does fail the first time), then one can type the work around:

modprobe fuse

and then repeat the initial line:
ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /windows/E -o silent,umask=0,local=en_US.utf8

To unmount one can type:
fusermount -u /windows/E.

I gave the /windows/E directory permissions 775.

One can also put the above in ones /etc/init.d/boot.local and /etc/init.d/halt.local.

There is also another way to put the above in one's boot files, such that the fstab works. I have not got around to implementing that yet on my pc.

The are 32-bit rpms for SuSE-10.0 and 10.1 by guru:
http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-...ystem/ntfs-3g/

One must install "fuse" prior to installing ntfs-3g.

I've also read it works for 64-bit, but one would have to get the tarball and compile in that case (or rebuild a 32-bit rpm src file).

The driver looks very promising, and I'm hoping within 6-months or sooner, it should be reasonably polished for 32-bit linux versions.

Humdain

Awesome This driver looks like just the thing I needed. Thank you so much!

mullet

I couldn't get the modprobe fuse it keeps saying command error each time. I also tried that command and it kept saying permission denied.

code:ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /windows/E -o silent,umask=0,local=en_US.utf8

Error opening partition device: Permission denied
Failed to startup volume: Permission denied
Couldn't mount device '/dev/hdb1': Permission denied
Mount failed.

devils casper

you needs root permissions to execute this code.
before executing that command, type 'su -'




casper

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oldcpu

Just to complete my contribution to this thread (apologies, .... I got lazy): On the suseforums site, the following was recommended to me, which works quite well for loading the ntfs-3g driver upon boot. First in a konsole (with root permissions) type:

modprobe fuse

Then edit the file /etc/sysconfig/kernel and modify the line that says:
MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT=""
to
MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT="fuse"

[I did this using YaST, as opposed to editting the file directly]

And finally I editted /etc/fstab to mount my ntfs partitions.
/dev/hdb1 /windows/e ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0

I had previously created the directory /windows/e with 775 permissions.

mullet

Okay I have 3 NTFS ,C,D & E. drive, will it be the same procedure to mount for all three of them? As that command I used didn't work even in the Root console. I got this message (sorry, I'm still a newbie)

chicken:~ # ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /windows/E -o silent,umask=0,local=en_US.utf8
fusermount: bad mount point /windows/E: No such file or directory
fuse_mount failed.
Unmounting /dev/hdb1 (WinXP)

mullet

Okay so where do I create the windows/e directory then?

oldcpu

Typically, upon installation, SuSE will detect any NTFS drives, and will automatically create mount points under /windows/C, /windows/D, etc ..... Now as you have discovered, you typically can not write to those NTFS drives with SuSE "as delivered", but as noted above in this thread with the ntfs-3g driver you can.

If /windows/C, /windows/D etc doesn't exist, then you can create them (using root permissions). Once they are created, be certain to change their permissions as I already noted in at least two of my posts above.

Be careful with Linux, in that it is case sensitive for syntax. Be absolutely certain you get the case correct.