Using Messenger Live on Linux anyone?!? Help!

[Y4244]

Hi!

I have severe trouble opening MSN messenger live version on my Linux-computer. Have installed the cloner: "amsn-0.96RC1-1-suse.i686.rpm" but when I try to open the messengerprogram Konqueror pops up with the question which program I want to use... What to do? Anyone? / Y.

[Juan Pablo]

rpm -ivh amsn-0.96RC1-1-suse.i686.rpm

I prefer KMess http://kmess.sourceforge.net/. Supports winks and nudges

[Y4244]

Thanks for advice! Do you know which of them I should choose also... and then my trouble to get the thing going...?

[Juan Pablo]

I suggest KMess

[Y4244]

Now I've installed the KMess-file, but still when I try to open Install_Messenger.se (which is installed and situated next beside the KMess om the desktop) together with KMess nothing happens. Or this happens:

1. I get the window "Open with..." and a list of suggested programes in my Linux.

2. When I write the code for the KMess-file in the adressfield end presses enter absolutely nothing happens. What do I do wrong?

Besides - "the smile of an infant is a twinkle of the universe".

[Wifi_is_evil]

This may look very complicated, but I'm just covering everything. It is actually VERY simple.

So here it is, the great big guide to RPMs!

Method 1.

1. Download your RPM (In this instance KMess) to the desktop. Make sure you download it for your right distribution (Suse 10.1) and your architecture (eg; i386, PPC, x86_64). A list of download sites is at the bottom of the post.

2. Open up Terminal (your command line) and type:

cd /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/Desktop [Press ENTER]
# This changes the directory to the location where your RPM is so that Linux knows where to find it.

ls [Press ENTER]
# This lists everything on the file you cds to.

3. When the list comes up, copy the RPM name. It should be something like "KMess.suse10.1.i386.rpm".

4. Type:

rpm -ivh [then press Shift+Insert]
# rpm tells Linux what to unpack, -i means install, v means verbose (not to be confused with V). verbose tells Linux to display what is happening in the command line, h means human, I think. I don't remember what that does, but press it anyay. Shift+Insert is like the universal command line paste (I don't know why they have this Ctrl+V now).

If you have problems, see TROUBLESHOOT. Don't worry, everyone gets the dependency problem sometimes.

Method 2:

ALTERNATIVELY, you can use this method, which is better in the long run:

1. Follow Method 1, Step 1.

2. On the desktop, right clight on the Kmess rpm and click "Open with Software Install".

3. Let it run it's course. If you get "dependency resolution failed, see TROUBLESHOOT. Don't worry, everyone gets this problem sometimes.

Troubleshoot

Dependencies are files/programs needed by other files/programs to open/run. A dependency resolution is a test to check if all the required dependencies are installed.

If you get a Dependency resolution failed message, it means you have one or more missing dependency/ies.

Just go to a download site (scroll down) and download the required dependencies as RPMs (see Method 1, Step 1). Install them, then install Kmess and you're off!

Advice and Conclusion

Well, dependencies are a real pain, but -sometimes- they are a whole lot easier than sourcefiles. (For example, the RTL8187 driver which is SO HARD TOr INSTALL, ARGH!)

Luckily, we have package managers to assist. They have a disadvantage, in that they don't have EVERY software (unlike google ) However, they resolve dependency problems automatically!

Suse comes with one, which can be found by pressing the Suse menu button (the big green circle with a chameleon head in it). Then press System, Configuration and then Software Install. This is the Redhat Package Manager. If you ever run into Dependency Hell, where your dependencies have dependencies and it goes on forever, package managers are your friend! You should probably look into YUM (google it).

PS. You seem new to Suse and RPMs in general. Welcome to Suse, it really is a great distro!

List of websites:

www.rpmfind.com
rpm.pbone.net
OF COURSE SOURCEFORGE RULES, but it is mainly source files.

[Y4244]

Ok, there I've got something to do....!

I'll do it whenever there is time... thanks anyway! / Y.


7.06 pm
Now the time has been here and this is what takes place on my computor:

1. The only version I get when I download "Messenger live" from site 'http://get.live.com/messenger/overview' (or as the downloadmodule says: from 'http://download.microsoft.com') is 'Install_Messenger.exe' 15.4 Mb - this must be the one and only, right?

2.The cloner is called 'kmess-1.5pre1.x86.package', it's downloaded as recommended and I do hope that's the ringt guy for this mission - or? (is this really a RPM? Its type of file sais "shellscript" in Konqueror.)

3. I follow the alternative method above and - nothing happens! Not even do I get a "Dependency resolution failed message" which would have been a treat in this case..

4. When I grudgingly try method one above I get the answer that the file doesn exist. Anything to do with the "shellscript"-value above?

- Lost again. Are you still out there, Linux-knights...? I would be most thankfull for final guidance...

8.25 pm

Ok, I'm checking the Kmess so-called download, suppose I've got the wrong guy here... hm!

[Wifi_is_evil]

Ok, there I've got something to do....!

I'll do it whenever there is time... thanks anyway! / Y.


7.06 pm
Now the time has been here and this is what takes place on my computor:

1. The only version I get when I download "Messenger live" from site 'http://get.live.com/messenger/overview' (or as the downloadmodule says: from 'http://download.microsoft.com') is 'Install_Messenger.exe' 15.4 Mb - this must be the one and only, right?

2.The cloner is called 'kmess-1.5pre1.x86.package', it's downloaded as recommended and I do hope that's the ringt guy for this mission - or? (is this really a RPM? Its type of file sais "shellscript" in Konqueror.)

3. I follow the alternative method above and - nothing happens! Not even do I get a "Dependency resolution failed message" which would have been a treat in this case..

4. When I grudgingly try method one above I get the answer that the file doesn exist. Anything to do with the "shellscript"-value above?

- Lost again. Are you still out there, Linux-knights...? I would be most thankfull for final guidance...

8.25 pm

Ok, I'm checking the Kmess so-called download, suppose I've got the wrong guy here... hm!

No, that install_messenger is not the one and only. It is a Windows exe. You can only run it through windows or Wine. Maybe someone could tell us where to download a Kmess rpm?

[stefanb]

Last tim I setup messenger on Suse it was in the disto if my memory serves me right. Have you guys try'd seching in the software thing in yast ?

[bigtomrodney]

I agree - gaim or kopete will automatically be installed with the appropriate desktop - gaim in Gnome and Kopete in KDE. These are both capable of using the MSN network.