Again Problem With Ati...

[seles]

Those ati drivers are a big problem....
I have suse 10.1 and ATI X1300... I have downloaded the drivers from the ati website. Then i loged in as root and i had done the following:


cd /usr/src/linux
make mrproper
make cloneconfig
make modules_prepare
make clean
rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep fglrx)
init 3
cd /home/seles
./ati* --buildpkg SuSE/SUSE101_AMD64
rpm -ivh fglrx*
ldcofig
aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
reboot


after the reboot i lost the X. I boot again in failsafe mode, I logged in as root and type

sax2

Then i submitted the new resolution and the X was up again with better graphics . But after opening a konsole and giving the fglrxinfo command i saw again the Mesa thing... I 've done all the above from the begining and after the aticonfig command i recieved an error "segmentation fault"...

Can anybody plesae help me... I'm quite new in linux but i don't want to quit because of this... If anybody can tell me what to do in order to run linux with 3D acceleration i would apreciated...

Thank you in advance...

[Cool01]

I am using a fairly different system than what you have (OpenSuSE 10.2, ATi X1600 series), but maybe I can help:

Those ati drivers are a big problem....
I have suse 10.1 and ATI X1300... I have downloaded the drivers from the ati website. Then i loged in as root and i had done the following:

. . .

ldcofig

I expect this was not your problem, but that should have been "ldconfig"

You have not listed any of the results of your commands. I think it would have been obvious if this was what was wrong.

aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf
sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx
reboot


after the reboot i lost the X. I boot again in failsafe mode, I logged in as root and type

sax2

Then i submitted the new resolution and the X was up again with better graphics . But after opening a konsole and giving the fglrxinfo command i saw again the Mesa thing... I 've done all the above from the begining and after the aticonfig command i recieved an error "segmentation fault"...

Can anybody plesae help me... I'm quite new in linux but i don't want to quit because of this... If anybody can tell me what to do in order to run linux with 3D acceleration i would apreciated...

Thank you in advance...

The only other thing I see is that your "rpm" command was "-ivh". I think that "-Uvh" might be better. Also, if your system was not a completely fresh installation, you might have done something that has changed it from what the ATi installer expects to see, so you might need to force the installation. I think that is a "-F" command option.

Also, somewhere along the upgrade path I lost 3D acceleration on my computer. Probably it was during an "xorg 7.2" upgrade. Anyway, I still have 2D acceleration, and so I have decided not to bother re-installing the ATi driver again yet. I will wait for a while and see if their next driver is an improvement.

[seles]

I expect this was not your problem, but that should have been "ldconfig"
.....

The only other thing I see is that your "rpm" command was "-ivh". I think that "-Uvh" might be better. Also, if your system was not a completely fresh installation, you might have done something that has changed it from what the ATi installer expects to see, so you might need to force the installation. I think that is a "-F" command option.

ty for your fast reply... About the "ldconfig" command it was just a bad spelling in the thread... And i have also tried to install the rpm with the parametre -Uvh and the result was the same....

I beleive that the problem is in the "aticonfig" command and not in the installation... anyway if you have a better idea just tell me... And i would like to know if you have the same problem as mine after configuring the sax...

[Cool01]

ty for your fast reply... About the "ldconfig" command it was just a bad spelling in the thread... And i have also tried to install the rpm with the parametre -Uvh and the result was the same....

I beleive that the problem is in the "aticonfig" command and not in the installation... anyway if you have a better idea just tell me... And i would like to know if you have the same problem as mine after configuring the sax...

I expected that your "ldconfig" was just a mistake in your message.

I just checked the ATi website, and I see that they updated the driver on Apr. 18, and I guess that this new driver is the one you are trying now? Apparently, the installation instructions have changed. Be sure to read the latest installation instructions. Also, since it is early in the life of this particular driver, you should be sure to post your problem on AMD's bug tracking. It is possible that this is a new bug.

I have downloaded the driver, but as I said above, I an not anxious to load it. If I feel the need for 3D then I might try to load it. On the other hand, I might just leave it. I found out that, yes, my computer has been "downgraded" to the MESA driver just like yours.

Fine. The only game that I play is Mahjongg. But if I decide to do some 3D modelling, then maybe I will try the ATi driver again. Maybe by then I will be able to skip this driver and get the next one.

[seles]

ty for the info.... I'll give the new drivers a try and who knows.... hope to work... I'll post the results...

[seles]

ohhh i forgot sth... my linux platform is 64-bit... Is this a problem??? Somebody told me that i have to install the 32-bit drivers first is this true???

[gogalthorp]

ohhh i forgot sth... my linux platform is 64-bit... Is this a problem??? Somebody told me that i have to install the 32-bit drivers first is this true???

That should not be a general problem. BUt it is possible thet the ATI 64bit drivers are buggy. However you will find less problems over all with 32 bit. Unless you have more then 4 gig of memory and need to use huge data sets, you don't need 64 bit. It is no faster. You just get to say your running 64 bits and fight with 32 bit drivers/programs

[seles]

That should not be a general problem. BUt it is possible thet the ATI 64bit drivers are buggy. However you will find less problems over all with 32 bit. Unless you have more then 4 gig of memory and need to use huge data sets, you don't need 64 bit. It is no faster. You just get to say your running 64 bits and fight with 32 bit drivers/programs

my friend i have just tried installing ati 32-bit drivers but this time i got an error at the installation

error: kernel build module failed

Keep in mind that with the 64-bit drivers i dont face a problem during the installation but system crashes after the command "sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx".
Propably i can't configure the fglrx properly...

Anyway ty for you interest...

[Cool01]

That should not be a general problem. BUt it is possible thet the ATI 64bit drivers are buggy. However you will find less problems over all with 32 bit. Unless you have more then 4 gig of memory and need to use huge data sets, you don't need 64 bit. It is no faster. You just get to say your running 64 bits and fight with 32 bit drivers/programs

I have to disagree with this. First, as for speed, yes, it can speed up some programs. But it depends on what you are doing. As far as the ATi drivers are concerned, it depends on whether there is any CPU processing for certain operations. These days I expect most really complex operations are done completely within the graphics card. But that is not necessarily the case.

Second, if you mix 32 and 64-bit modules, that is actually more dangerous because data passing has to be done correctly, which means casting errors become an issue. I think I found a casting error bug in the 32-bit FireFox. That has yet to be resolved.

Third, from what I have seen so far, I would say that the current 64-bit modules are no more buggy than the 32-bit modules. On my computer, everything has been as good as on any Linux system I have tried, except for the one minor bug on FireFox, which is not being distributed in 64-bit yet (it will be eventually).

On another related point, the reason I am using ATi right now is because I bought an nVidia based card first, and it kept crashing. So between those 2 technologies, I have found that ATi is currently more stable. That can change. . . .

[Cool01]

ohhh i forgot sth... my linux platform is 64-bit... Is this a problem??? Somebody told me that i have to install the 32-bit drivers first is this true???

I am running almost pure 64-bit, and I have been doing so since I got this computer. The only module I run in 32-bit is Firefox because that is the only way that it currently comes. If you make the jump to OpenSuSE 10.3 (Alpha -- the most dangerous , they have just started testing Firefox in 64-bit.

I do not have time for such experimenting. Also, if it proves stable, I expect that they will back-port the 64-bit version to 10.2 (which I am using) and probably 10.1 as well.