Problem with KDE update

[gogalthorp]

Suse 10.1 64bit using smart

I got a large update notice from smart. Lots of KDE stuff.

down loaded ~240 meg worth of stuff

when the install started I got a large list of confilcts most had to do with kdelibs 32 bit

kdelibs3 3.5.7-24.1%i586 was to be installed I locked it out
kdelibs3-32Bit 3.5.1-49.18.3@x86_64 conflicted was not marked for removel

Which should I keep

I silenced those by locking out the 32 bit version it wanted to install of course I have no idea what that will do. I know but the conflicts went away. At least most I have these left .


I waited a day to see if maybe there were some more files updated that I had missed because of bad timing

file /opt/kde3/include/networkstatuscommon.h from install of kdelibs3-devel-3.5.7-23.1 conflicts with file from package kdepim3-devel-3.5.7-7.1
file /opt/kde3/lib64/libconnectionmanager.la from install of kdelibs3-devel-3.5.7-23.1 conflicts with file from package kdepim3-3.5.7-7.1
file /opt/kde3/lib64/libconnectionmanager.so.0.0.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 conflicts with file from package kdepim3-3.5.7-7.1

I really would not want to delete the pim stuff if it were not being replaced with equivalent in the kdelibs3 file. Very confusing.

At the moment I have 240 meg waiting to be installed but stopped because of this.

Anyone else seen this? Any ideas?

[gogalthorp]

Bump.

No ideas I'm really stuck here with 240meg waiting to install and I can't keep my system updated with the everything on hold. There must be something like 85 packages and no way to say no thanks I don't want all these except to go through the list one at a time and lock the packages that are being updated. I expect that at least some of the upgrades are security oriented. But a failing of smart is that it does not show the reason for the update just that one is available. There are a lot of things I like about smart but I see this as a large hole. Also once I get an update list I should be able to stop one or more packages in selected group but this does not seem to be possible.

[bigtomrodney]

You've gotten yourself stuck in rpm dependency hell! Haven't seen that in a while. You could spend all day trying to install files but may end up with a circular dependency. While some of these updates may contain security fixes it is important to remember that they in turn might require the other packages rather than just prefer them.

The way I see it you have a few options

• Using the command line specify all files together. this may be risky if you have missed anything. (something like rpm -Uvh *.rpm)
• Go into YaST sources and create a repository out of the folder you are storing these rpms in and let YaST do the package management thing for you
• Just give up on what you've downloaded and use Smart or YaST to manage the downloads

[gogalthorp]

Used Smart to get there in the first place.

After taking a deep breath I told smart to remove the kdelibs3-32bit that was already installed. It looked like the kdelibs3 xxxxxx 586 was the replacement. That broke the log jam. everything installed note one was from suse and the other from opensuse seems there is a conflict between repositories This should be reported to someone but I don't know who???? I suspect this is a 64 bit problem, and you would only likely see it if you used smart with the default channels and 64 bit. I'd have hated to try and work this out in Yast.

All seems to be basically all right but I have now lost the event sounds in KDE. The KDE test sound works ie I get the tada but no events are generating sounds. ie no startup sound and I have such a cool startup sound. Also lost the weather applet which I liked.
All other sounds seem to work.

I think I need to stop suse-kde channel this is not the first huge kde change that came down in the last 30-40 days I suspect that is the channel that is causing it. As much as I tend to the bleeding edge I really need a stable system at the moment.

On the other hand if a fix for the sound/weather comes down I'd miss it because the other channels don't have as advanced kde packages and now I'm at the edge. Arg!

[scrarfussi]

i had same problem it seems when you update a kdelibs3 it affects all the programs that run with it i ended up having to reinstall everything from amarok to gimp to bluetooth a whole lot of things such a nightmare

[gogalthorp]

Are you running 64 bit?

Are you using smart?

Are you using the KDE channel?

The problem was pretty easy to resolve it was just the uncertainty of have two files with different naming conventions on the system providing the same service and the RPM not recognizing that the older one needed to be removed. Which one should be used??

[gogalthorp]

Arrgg it did it to me again

kdebase3-nsplugin-3.5.7-23.1 requires libDCOP.so.4
kdebase3-nsplugin-3.5.7-23.1 requires libkdecore.so.4
kdebase3-nsplugin-3.5.7-23.1 requires libkdeui.so.4
kdebase3-nsplugin-3.5.7-23.1 requires libkio.so.4
kdebase3-nsplugin-3.5.7-23.1 requires libkparts.so.2
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libDCOP.so.4
OpenOffice_org-kde-2.0.4-38.2.3 requires libkabc.so.1
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkabc.so.1
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkatepartinterfaces.so.0
gtk-qt-engine-32bit-0.7cvs20060209-22.1 requires libkdecore.so.4
OpenOffice_org-kde-2.0.4-38.2.3 requires libkdecore.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdecore.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdefx.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdemm.so.0
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdeprint.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdeprint_management.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdesu.so.4
gtk-qt-engine-32bit-0.7cvs20060209-22.1 requires libkdeui.so.4
OpenOffice_org-kde-2.0.4-38.2.3 requires libkdeui.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdeui.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkdnssd.so.1
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkhtml.so.4
OpenOffice_org-kde-2.0.4-38.2.3 requires libkio.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkio.so.4
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkmid.so.0
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libknewstuff.so.1
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkparts.so.2
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libktexteditor.so.0
kdebase3-32bit-3.5.1-69.35.3 requires libkutils.so.1

Ok I should have all these libraries. Just checked on libDCOP.so.4 and it is installed also libDCOP.so and libDCOP.so.4.2.0 in the /opt/kde2/lib and the /opt/kde2/lib64 directories. I suspect the rest would also be found.

What is going on???