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06-10-2008 #1Just Joined!
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[SOLVED] Broken/Unmet dependencies
I have a serious problem. I have two broken dependecies and when I try to fix them with package manager, everything, I mean everything will be removed. I cannot install or update anything until the broken dependencies are fix. Even when I try using "apt-get install" to reinstall the broken dependencies.
Is there a way of fixing this problem.
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06-10-2008 #2
Execute this
Post exact error message here, if any.Code:sudo dpkg --configure -a sudo apt-get clean all sudo apt-get update
It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
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06-10-2008 #3Just Joined!
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I did that and this is what I get
but the package manager is still showing the two broken dependencies.Code:thabom@thabom-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a thabom@thabom-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get clean all thabom@thabom-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) gutsy/main Translation-en_ZA Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_ZA Get:1 http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/free Translation-en_ZA Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Translation-en_ZA Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/restricted Translation-en_ZA Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Translation-en_ZA Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/multiverse Translation-en_ZA Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/universe Translation-en_ZA Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy Release Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/free Packages Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/free Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/restricted Packages Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Packages Get:3 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted Translation-en_ZA Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_ZA Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/multiverse Packages Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Translation-en_ZA Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Translation-en_ZA Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/universe Packages Get:4 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release.gpg [191B] Get:5 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/restricted Translation-en_ZA Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main Translation-en_ZA Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/multiverse Translation-en_ZA Ign http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/universe Translation-en_ZA Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates Release Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/restricted Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/multiverse Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/universe Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/restricted Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/multiverse Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/universe Packages Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/restricted Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/multiverse Sources Hit http://za.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/universe Sources Fetched 5B in 17s (0B/s) Reading package lists... Done thabom@thabom-laptop:~$
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06-10-2008 #4
Have you tried to install any package?
Execute this
Which packages are marked as broken?Code:sudo apt-get install htop
* htop is a very good process manager. Execute htop command after installating it.It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
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06-10-2008 #5Just Joined!
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The following packages are broken
when I tryCode:libgcc1 libstdc++6
this is what I getCode:sudo apt-get install htop
and when I tryCode:thabom@thabom-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install htop Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgcc1: Depends: gcc-4.2-base (= 4.2.1-5ubuntu4) but 4.2.3-2ubuntu7 is to be installed libstdc++6: Depends: gcc-4.2-base (= 4.2.1-5ubuntu4) but 4.2.3-2ubuntu7 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). thabom@thabom-laptop:~$
I getCode:apt-get -f install
it doesn't look good to me.Code:thabom@thabom-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: mplayer-skins mysql-query-browser-common kdelibs-data java-common mysql-common libseda-java mysql-admin-common libgii1-target-x libgtk1.2-common liblucene-java-doc gcc-3.3-base quanta-data Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 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06-10-2008 #6
Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
Code:cat /etc/lsb-release
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06-10-2008 #8
Did you upgrade Gutsy or is it a fresh install?
Something is wrong with sources. Post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list file.
Code:less /etc/apt/sources.list
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it was a fresh install
Code:# deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security restricted main multiverse universe # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security restricted main multiverse universe deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy restricted main multiverse universe deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy restricted main multiverse universe # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates restricted main multiverse universe # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates restricted main multiverse universe # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main universe deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security restricted main multiverse universe deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates restricted main multiverse universe deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted
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I have changed my sources.list to this
when I tryCode:deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security restricted main multiverse universe deb http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/ gutsy-update restricted main multiverse universe deb http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
I get thisCode:sudo apt-get update
Someone tell me what is wrong here..Code:thabom@thabom-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update Get:1 http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/free Translation-en_ZA Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Translation-en_ZA Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/restricted Translation-en_ZA Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Translation-en_ZA Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/multiverse Translation-en_ZA Ign http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/universe Translation-en_ZA Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy Release Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/free Packages Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/restricted Packages Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/free Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Packages Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/multiverse Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/universe Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update Release.gpg Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/restricted Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/main Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/multiverse Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/universe Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy Release.gpg Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/main Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/restricted Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/universe Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/multiverse Translation-en_ZA Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update Release Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy Release Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/restricted Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/main Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/multiverse Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/universe Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/main Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/restricted Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/universe Packages Ign http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/multiverse Packages Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/restricted Packages 503 Service Unavailable Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/main Packages 503 Service Unavailable Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/multiverse Packages 503 Service Unavailable Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy-update/universe Packages 503 Service Unavailable Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/main Packages 503 Service Unavailable Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/restricted Packages 503 Service Unavailable Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/universe Packages 503 Service Unavailable Err http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za gutsy/multiverse Packages 503 Service Unavailable Fetched 2B in 1m33s (0B/s) Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy-update/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy-update/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy-update/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy-update/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-archive/dists/gutsy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 503 Service Unavailable Reading package lists... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.



