Ubuntu Server 8.10? hmmm

[Tezux]

OK so installed Ubuntu 8.10, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop

reboot

Oh Oh, doesnt except logon username and password now a desktop has been installed?

tried 3 times reinstaling, same problem every time

Anyone else experienced this?

[devils casper]

ubuntu-desktop package has nothing to do with username/password. Press Alt+Ctrl+F1 and try to login there.
Does it accept username/password and let you login?

[Dapper Dan]

Hi Tezux!

Any reason you can't use the desktop edition? After all, that's what it's made for. The server edition is just what it says. At any rate, (after installing desktop), sign in and do:

sudo gdm

and see if that brings up the "sign in thingy." If not, also try:

startx

If you're wanting to run a server AND a desktop, you can certainly run a server from the desktop edition as I presently do. Once everything is installed as you like it and the server is up and running, you can simply shut down the X server if you feel you need the extra resources.

[Tezux]

ubuntu-desktop package has nothing to do with username/password. Press Alt+Ctrl+F1 and try to login there.
Does it accept username/password and let you login?

It logs in through shell perfectly, then install a desktop and login no longer works anymore (in desktop)

[Tezux]

Hi Tezux!

Any reason you can't use the desktop edition? After all, that's what it's made for. The server edition is just what it says. At any rate, (after installing desktop), sign in and do:

sudo gdm

and see if that brings up the "sign in thingy." If not, also try:

startx

If you're wanting to run a server AND a desktop, you can certainly run a server from the desktop edition as I presently do. Once everything is installed as you like it and the server is up and running, you can simply shut down the X server if you feel you need the extra resources.

Cheers Dap, No theres no reason why I cant use desktop edition but since its a web server and Ubuntu has a Server edition then it has to be better for me right?
The login appears, but doesnt except the username and password anymore. If I change password it doesnt recognise it and wont work. When you say 'shutdown x server' how do you mean? so I can setup using a desktop then when working temporarily disable x server and use shell and then re-enable when needed? If thats what you mean then sounds good cos would make server more secure that way, so how to do that?
So Dap, do you have a server running in Ubuntu desktop edition? If so, do you find it reliable?

[Dapper Dan]

So Dap, do you have a server running in Ubuntu desktop edition? If so, do you find it reliable?

Yes, I'm running a web server from the desktop addition. Kubuntu actually. This particular machine serves two purposes, one being a LAMP server and the other a music player. So far, no problems. The folks who visit my site tell me it's fairly speedy. Go to MachoPowerWagon.com and see for yourself.

With desktops versions of Linux, you get a world of apps and utilities that server editions don't usually need, so I wouldn't say the server edition is necessarily "better," it's just scaled down to what you need (as a server) without the things server's don't. Linux servers traditionally are administered from the command line so why would one need compiz-fusion for instance?

Unless you are expecting very high traffic and provided your machine is capable, I can't see where running your server from the desktop version would be a problem, if like me you also need that desktop too. I'd go ahead and use the desktop edition (so you CAN get a desktop without the hassel) and build the server from there. Here's a really good source for creating a LAMP server under Ubuntu if that's what you're going for.

[Tezux]

Thanks Dap, just checked out your webby, thats very cool and very nice speed aswell. I like.
Oh nah, actually heres my story. I have a couple of websites running on a Ubuntu Server already, still developing them so unfinished at the moment, anyway I am using Ubuntu Server 8.04. A desktop installs perfectly in this version and login and everything else works aswell. Then one day I saw that Ubuntu Server 8.10 had been released so I downloaded and installed it as normal but then when I went to install the Desktop I had the problem of login no longer works. I thought it must have been a bug with this version (8.10) so thought I would check it out on here to see if anyone else had the same problem, only with 8.10 though, 8.04 works perfectly , well so far, (Tezux crosses his fingers for luck)

Anyway back to your website, I see you have your own little forum setup on there. How did u do that? I mean what did you use to design it and get it working, also like how do you make the forum update automatically when someone posts a question etc?
I posted a link today on here asking if someone could tell me how to make my website/server send automatic emails to my clients, do you know how to do this or any good links on this?

Yeh im a noobie in some ways I guess but this website design stuff is so very interesting to me.

Thanks for the link and all your help so far. I really appreciate it

[Dapper Dan]

When you say you can't get the login to come up, we're talking about GDM? It doesn't come up at all? Any error messages? Does it seem like an X related issue or something just not installed that needs to be? It could be a problem with compiz-fusion which is enabled by default in 8.10. That wasn't the case with previous versions where it was disabbled by default.

As far as the forum goes.... It's phpBB and is open source. Just download it and install after getting LAMP going. I highly recommend also installing Webmin. It takes up a lot of space but will make running your server(s) much easier. Don't know about the automatic emails, though mine will send me one when a new member signs up.

Setting all this up was a real adventure! I learned a lot and still am. Here's a link to my adventures if perhaps it might give you more insight to problems you may run into.

[Tezux]

When you say you can't get the login to come up, we're talking about GDM? It doesn't come up at all? Any error messages? Does it seem like an X related issue or something just not installed that needs to be? It could be a problem with compiz-fusion which is enabled by default in 8.10. That wasn't the case with previous versions where it was disabbled by default.

As far as the forum goes.... It's phpBB and is open source. Just download it and install after getting LAMP going. I highly recommend also installing Webmin. It takes up a lot of space but will make running your server(s) much easier. Don't know about the automatic emails, though mine will send me one when a new member signs up.

Setting all this up was a real adventure! I learned a lot and still am. Here's a link to my adventures if perhaps it might give you more insight to problems you may run into.

Nah, the login screen DOES come up (yeh GDM), but when you type in the username and password it wont accept it. No errors really, just you know, the username or password you have typed is incorrect (or whatever the message says).
If I try to login through the shell screen, no problems at all, the username and password work. So this problem only occurs if you install the desktop and try and login through the desktop, NOT the shell screen. The problem is the installing of the desktop seems to mess up something, I dunno what but something. Ahhh stuff it i'll use ubuntu desktop like you said Dap, dont have time for these problems, not getting anything done

Oh, phpbb, interesting thanks ill check it out. So how did you setup website to email you when someone registers?? or is it a feature built into phpbb?
Nah, I hate Webmin, soooooooo unreliable, sometimes it installs, sometimes it doesnt, sometimes you can logon, sometimes you cant, its a frustrating damn thing, but yes I wish it wasnt cause it does make configuring of the server easy. Maybe it just hates Ubuntu? I read on here somewhere that Ubuntu dropped it from its repositpries cause it was so unreliable?? I dont think it was a dream?

Thanks for all those links, big help once again.