SPM/UM Trying to remove important stuff during upgrades.

[wolfreak_99]

(SYN=Synaptic Package Manager; UM=Update Manager)
Some reason recently the Update Manager has been saying it can only do partial upgrades, then it asks if I want to confirm the things, I look at them, they have a few set to upgrade, it also says it will remove certain packages that pretty much would render my computer useless.

Heres a screenshot of the box I took just a few seconds ago when I went to "Mark All Upgrades" in Synaptic Package Manager. You can see that wanting to remove important things like "ubuntu-desktop" and "network-manager".

(edit: It says I am only allowed to post after 15 posts or more, but I need help now so you'll have to copy and paste the urls in, sorry)

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I mean, I would love to upgrade my WebcamStudio etc to check out the newer version, but I'm not gonna upgrade it if I can't even access it! LOL.

Has anyone had anything similar to this happen to them or even better know what would be the problem?

I'm planning on going back and manually checking the ones shown for upgrade after I get done posting this, and seeing if it might be a certain package. but in the mean time... Has anyone had anything similar to this happen to them or even better know what would be the problem?

Thanks, greatly appreciate it.

[JosePF]

Hello,
Please, could you run in terminal?:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

and then run and report output of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (but say no)
Regards

[wolfreak_99]

Hello,
Please, could you run in terminal?:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

and then run and report output of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (but say no)
Regards

I would but I'd like to know if I do that, will it remove the important packages like gnome desktop and network manager?

I'm right now on vacation so I don't have access to an ethernet cord (but I have wifi access, at least with network-manager lol) and I would like to not have to reinstall my linux again or do too much technical stuff and spend time repairing it and whatnot. But if you are sure that the update and upgrade will not remove the packages automatically, I will do it.

[JosePF]

Hi,
man apt-get:
[...]
upgrade
upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages
currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
/etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new
versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no
circumstances are currently installed packages removed,orpackages not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without
changing the install status of another package will be left at
their current version. An update must be performed first so that
apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available
[...]

Regards

[wolfreak_99]

Hi,
man apt-get:
[...]
upgrade
upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages
currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
/etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new
versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no
circumstances are currently installed packages removed,orpackages not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without
changing the install status of another package will be left at
their current version. An update must be performed first so that
apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available
[...]

Regards

dude i have no clue what you just said lol im sorry your gonna have to trim it down a little. I just wanna know if i will lose the installed packages it tried to remove, yes or no.

[JosePF]

trimming...
no

[devils casper]

If you go for upgrade, you will definitely lose all the listed packages marked for removal.
Package Manager doesn't remove anything without User's consent. If it asks for confirmation of anything, read message before hitting Y key.

Could you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list file here?

[wolfreak_99]

If you go for upgrade, you will definitely lose all the listed packages marked for removal.
Package Manager doesn't remove anything without User's consent. If it asks for confirmation of anything, read message before hitting Y key.

Could you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list file here?

It was saying I can't post the urls and since that one had waaaaaaay too much urls to go through and space out, I just uploaded the soures.list to here:

(of course remove the spaces around the dot)

pastebin . org/783767

I'm also needing to make a backup of my partition because I'm trying to install windows xp onto here but it's giving me the bsod so I'm gonna be formatting my harddrive but I am wanting to install a program partimage first, so I can make an iso file of my ubuntus partition, and back it up onto my external harddrive.. but when I go to install the package, it says I need libnewt0.51, I have libnewt0.52 in here, but I figured I'd try to downgrade libnewt0.52 to 0.51 temporarily to get this job done, but when I went to check the installation it listed all those packages again.. would this possibly be causing the problem (the libnewt)?

Thank you guys for your offerings to help, im really appreciating it. I'm a musical artist and I don't really do much on computers but I decided to use ubuntu because I got tired of windows 7's ******** and errors galore and whatnot. i also hated the fact i didnt have a stereo mix option and couldnt get it after trying forever. I know somewhat about computers, but this problem about it uninstalling all those packages, im only smart enough to know that that is a big no no and somethings wrong with it. so thank you guys so much for your help so far im really appreciating it.

THIS IS NOT SOLVED YET SO BEFORE ANY MODS MARK THIS AS SOLVED PLEASE DON'T

anyways yeah, long short, theres the pastebin file of sources.list, would libnewt0.52 possibly cause this, and windows is a pain in the *** lol.

[JosePF]

hi again

First:
"man upgrade:
under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed,or packages not already installed retrieved and installed."

Second:
"Some reason recently the Update Manager has been saying it can only do partial upgrades, then it asks if I want to confirm the things, I look at them, they have a few set to upgrade, it also says it will remove certain packages that pretty much would render my computer useless."

Partial upgrade reffers to upgrade, because to do a "full upgrade" (dist-upgrade) can remove or install new packages.

When Update Manager ask you:
If you say no: it does partial update.(upgrade)
If you say yes: it does a full update, that can remove packages.(dist-upgrade)

I dont belive that he marks any package for remove because he had done everything with guis.

I was only doing what he asked for, to be brief so not to mess.
And thus gradually go saying him what to do.

I'm sorry if i caused any problem due to my way of explaining

Regards

[wolfreak_99]

hi again

First:
"man upgrade:
under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed,or packages not already installed retrieved and installed."

Second:
"Some reason recently the Update Manager has been saying it can only do partial upgrades, then it asks if I want to confirm the things, I look at them, they have a few set to upgrade, it also says it will remove certain packages that pretty much would render my computer useless."

Partial upgrade reffers to upgrade, because to do a "full upgrade" (dist-upgrade) can remove or install new packages.

When Update Manager ask you:
If you say no: it does partial update.(upgrade)
If you say yes: it does a full update, that can remove packages.(dist-upgrade)

I dont belive that he marks any package for remove because he had done everything with guis.

I was only doing what he asked for, to be brief so not to mess.
And thus gradually go saying him what to do.

I'm sorry if i caused any problem due to my way of explaining

Regards

I'm sorry, but I still have no clue what you're saying lol.

Take a look at this video, I recorded what exactly it's trying to do.

youtube.com/watch?v=kRSrS-0UU9A