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Hey guys,
I have a dual boot System with Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix and Windows XP SP3 on an Asus eeePC 1000HE. I had some troubles with updating kernels etc. ...
- 10-01-2010 #1
Dual Boot: Windows: Grub Hard Disk Error
Hey guys,
I have a dual boot System with Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Remix and Windows XP SP3 on an Asus eeePC 1000HE. I had some troubles with updating kernels etc. and I ended up with following problem:
After grub reinstall, I am able to boot Ubuntu, also I can mount the windows partition properly. Trying to boot into Windows, I get the error:
It's all on one hard drive which doesn't show any errors:Code:Grub Hard Disk Error
Code:# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 214 heads, 54 sectors/track, 27049 cylinders Units = cylinders of 11556 * 512 = 5916672 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x9358c633 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 13078 75564657 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 13079 13112 196452 83 Linux /dev/sda3 13113 27049 80527933 5 Extended /dev/sda5 13640 14791 6656229 83 Linux /dev/sda6 14792 15358 3276099 83 Linux /dev/sda7 15359 15447 514215 83 Linux /dev/sda8 15448 27049 67036329 83 Linux /dev/sda9 13113 13545 2501820 83 Linux /dev/sda10 13546 13639 543105 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order
Some partitions don't show a file system because they are luks-encrypted.Code:# parted /dev/sda unit s print Model: ATA ST9160310AS (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 312581808s Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Number Start End Size Type File system Flags 1 54s 151129367s 151129314s primary ntfs boot 2 151129368s 151522271s 392904s primary ext2 3 151522378s 312578243s 161055866s extended 9 151522380s 156526019s 5003640s logical 10 156526074s 157612283s 1086210s logical ext4 5 157612338s 170924795s 13312458s logical ext4 6 170924850s 177477047s 6552198s logical 7 177477102s 178505531s 1028430s logical 8 178505586s 312578243s 134072658s logical
As I mentioned earlier, I am able to mount sda1.
I think the problem is that the Partition Boot Sector is corrupted, even though I am not sure if the ntfs partition is damaged at all or if GRUB is the problem.
As I said I had problems with a kernel update and therefore had to reinstall GRUB. I think, but I am not sure, that I accidentally installed GRUB on sda1 (the windows partition) instead of on sda. After I installed GRUB on sda again, I was able to boot linux and fixed sda1 with testdisk. Before, sda1 showed as four partitions (sda1p1, ... , sda1p4). I was not able to mount sda1 till I fixed it with testdisk.
testdisk says the Boot Sector of sda1 is OK, so does ntfsfix.
Finally, an extract from my /boot/grub/menu.lst:
The Windows XP entry is added by myself. I don't know much about grub, so there might be the error.Code:... ## ## End Default Options ## title Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS, kernel 2.6.32-24-generic uuid 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro quiet splash initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic quiet title Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS, kernel 2.6.32-24-generic (recovery mode) uuid 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro single initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic title Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS, kernel 2.6.32-23-generic uuid 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro quiet splash initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-23-generic quiet title Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS, kernel 2.6.32-23-generic (recovery mode) uuid 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro single initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-23-generic title Chainload into GRUB 2 root 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 kernel /boot/grub/core.img title Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS, memtest86+ uuid 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 kernel /memtest86+.bin quiet title Windows XP root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
I tried to keep it as short as possible (this is only the end of the story), I hope I didn't forget anything important. Please ask if there is something not clear.
I am in Tanzania with this netbook, so it is not possible to boot Windows CD and fix the windows partition with it, also I don't have a very fast Internet connection.
Is there a way to fix this without a Windows CD? Maybe it is just a dumb mistake in the menu.lst? Any help is highly appreciated.
- 10-01-2010 #2Did you create partitions inside /dev/sda1? In that case, Windows XP might be corrupted.Before, sda1 showed as four partitions (sda1p1, ... , sda1p4). I was not able to mount sda1 till I fixed it with testdisk.
Mount /dev/sda1 and check its contents. Are all files intact?
If everything is fine, download SuperGRUB CD or USB and boot up from it. SuperGRUB has an option to Fix Windows OS Boot. If Windows OS boot up fine, we will re-install GRUB to setup dual boot again.It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
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- 10-01-2010 #3
Ok, somehow it didn't post my first reply, must be the internet connection.
Well thanks for help. I never (purposely) created partitions on /dev/sda1 but there were 4 partitions, maybe created during grub install?
The windows partition (dev/sda1) works properly, all files are intact as far as I can see.
I tried Super Grub, it is indeed a great tool. Unfortunately, it didn't help me either.
I tried Windows -> Fix Boot to Windows. It did remove GRUB but I still get Grub Hard Disk Error.
Also, I tried to uninstall GRUB (after I reinstalled it), same result (no surprise).
It seems like there is a GRUB on /dev/sda1 altough I don't know how to prove that.
Super Grub unfortunately only offers to remove GRUB from MBR.
My guess is:
When I choose Fix Boot to Windows, it copies the GRUB installed on /dev/sda1 to the MBR. This version of GRUB is obviously not working at all.
The more I work on it the more I am surprised that I can mount /dev/sda1, read it and also write on it properly.
Is my guess right or am I completely wrong? Anything else doesn't make sense to me.
How can I remove GRUB from a partition?
I thought about copying the header of a bootable NTFS to /dev/sda1 with dd. This idea seemed crazy at first, but I think it might work, or at least, Super Grub could fix it afterwards.
What do you say?
Thanks for your help
- 10-02-2010 #4I wondering if you have used Fix Boot to Windows option of SuperGRUB, why GRUB even appear at startup. Fix Boot to Windows doesn't copy GRUB. It just rewrite Boot Area of MBR. GRUB is in no way connected to Windows OS and SuperGRUB doesn't use it to fix Windows OS.When I choose Fix Boot to Windows, it copies the GRUB installed on /dev/sda1 to the MBR. This version of GRUB is obviously not working at all.
Linux support NTFS read/write access out of box now and that's why you are able to read/write in Windows OS partition.
Is it possible for you to use Floppy?It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
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- 10-02-2010 #5Linux User
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Both fdisk and parted outputs indicate the hdd has 54 sectors/track , that as far as I know is not comman . Could that be causing a problem (?).
Trytitle Windows XP
root (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
rootnoverify (hd0,0) NOTE: only 1 space between 'y' and '(hd0'
chainloader +1
- 10-02-2010 #6
As far as I see it, SuperGRUB copies some part of the windows partition header (probably where it usually keeps the MBR) to the MBR. If that's true and there is really a GRUB on there, it copies GRUB instead of a working MBR. I don't think it writes a MBR "out of his memory".
Also when I choose Fix Boot to Windows, it asks about what OS is supposed to be on the partition. The only choice I get is "Syslinux".
Moreover, if I check for menu.lst with SuperGRUB, it shows me one on /dev/sda1. That's not normal is it?
No, unfortunately I can use USB and SD only.
That might be a good hint, altough I can boot Ubuntu. If that was causing the problem, wouldn't Ubuntu be unbootable, too?
Originally Posted by Lostfarmer
I tried, it didn't make any difference (Same error: Grub Hard Disk Error)
Originally Posted by Lostfarmer
I have another question:
There seems to be 4 partitions within the partition. Is this normal for NTFS?Code:fdisk -l /dev/sda1 Disk /dev/sda1: 77.4 GB, 77378208768 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9407 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x444c544e This doesn't look like a partition table Probably you selected the wrong device. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1p1 ? 110102 110577 3815730+ 6b Unknown Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda1p2 ? 113965 200777 697317940+ 75 PC/IX Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda1p3 ? 106997 106998 1286+ 41 PPC PReP Boot Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda1p4 175983 175986 26459 0 Empty Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. Partition table entries are not in disk order
I thought I fixed that (as I said in the first post), but apparently, it's still like that.
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I notice the menu.lst has an entrie for grub2, that might indicate that grub 2 is being used not grub lagacy. Check if you have /boot/grub/grub.cfg, if so post it.
fdisk -l /dev/sda1 will give garbage output and that is ok. That command will look at the first sector of partition which does have the boot record information for a NTFS partition and will miss interpet the data.
- 10-02-2010 #8
OK, you're right:
I guess I gotta explain something I haven't said yet (it didn't seem important until now):Code:# /boot/grub/grub.cfg # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE # # It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub # ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ### if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then load_env fi set default="0" if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry} save_env saved_entry set prev_saved_entry= save_env prev_saved_entry set boot_once=true fi function savedefault { if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then saved_entry=${chosen} save_env saved_entry fi } function recordfail { set recordfail=1 if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi } insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,5)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 3be2be0d-2dbf-4cbc-97b6-5c294ef61396 if loadfont /share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then set gfxmode=640x480 insmod gfxterm insmod vbe if terminal_output gfxterm ; then true ; else # For backward compatibility with versions of terminal.mod that don't # understand terminal_output terminal gfxterm fi fi insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 set locale_dir=($root)/grub/locale set lang=en insmod gettext if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then set timeout=-1 else set timeout=10 fi ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ### set menu_color_normal=white/black set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic } menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.32-22-generic ...' linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro single echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic } menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic } menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.32-21-generic ...' linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=fc167932-c5ce-4f8e-a700-66652b8d52ba ro single echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic } ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" { insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 linux16 /memtest86+.bin } menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" { insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 110aba5e-2aba-4bab-9eab-921591c653b0 linux16 /memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8 } ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### menuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sda1)" { insmod ntfs set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set ee64d0dc64d0a91b drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} chainloader +1 } ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change # the 'exec tail' line above. ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
My trouble started, when I removed linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic and linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic. Since my root partition is very small, there is not enough space for more than four kernels. Unfortunately, I didn't realize grub wasn't updated until I rebooted. Then of course it was complaining about the missing kernels. The menu was the above. No problem, I changed it manually to 2.6.32-24 and it booted properly. Since i couldn't get it updated, I thought I'd just reinstall grub. That's when I did the horrible mistake to install grub on /dev/sda1. Also, I thought I had grub and not grub2, altough this seemed weird since this is a clean 10.04 installation, and as far as I know, they usually come with grub2. But grub2 wasn't installed, so I thought it was grub. Apparently, I was wrong.
Enough of story telling, does this help at all? I think it doesn't change the fact I accidentally installed grub on /dev/sda1, altough I could try to install grub2 instead of grub. Could doing this help?
There are some boot options in the Windows entry which I don't have in my menu.lst of grub so installing grub2 might indeed fix the problem... Still not sure and therefore waiting for your answer.
Meanwhile, I kept googling and found this:
josephhall.org/grub_install_hda1.html
(can't post links yet since I am a newbie
)
As it says on there, I would try to do step 2 and 4 only, zero out the boot sector of the Windows partition and then copy Windows system files. What do you think about this?
Sorry for those lengthy posts...
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NO, do not do that. It is for Win98 fat32 partition not XP with NTFS. I do not think it would work any way 'have not verified' . Step #2 would not only zero out the boot code but also the Bios Parameter Block (BPB). The BPB is very important and is only written by format and no other MS program writes it. There is the primary BPB 'first sector' and its backup 'last sector'. Testdisk will rewrite the primary with it backup when the advanced option is selected. Should fix the grub install problem on sda1. Fat32 partitions are a little different.As it says on there, I would try to do step 2 and 4 only, zero out the boot sector of the Windows partition and then copy Windows system files. What do you think about this?
NTFS.com Partition Boot Sector on PC hard drives.
You must find out which grub is in use. When you boot into the menu do you see 'Window XP' grub legacy or "Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (on /dev/sda1)" grub 2 ?
Did you resize or move the NTFS partition ? Some programs do not update the backup BPB so testdisk might have rewritten the primary with bad data, but due to you being able to read the partition the BPB seems to be correct.
- 10-03-2010 #10
It says the boot sectors are identical. I dumped the boot sector, maybe it helps you any. This is an extract of testdisk.log:
Before all this, grub2 was in use. Now, it is grub.Code:Boot sector Backup boot sector 0000 eb48904e 54465320 .H.NTFS eb48904e 54465320 .H.NTFS 0008 20202000 02080000 ..... 20202000 02080000 ..... 0010 00000000 00f80000 ........ 00000000 00f80000 ........ 0018 3f00ff00 36000000 ?...6... 3f00ff00 36000000 ?...6... 0020 00000000 80008000 ........ 00000000 80008000 ........ 0028 e10c0209 00000000 ........ e10c0209 00000000 ........ 0030 00000c00 00000000 ........ 00000c00 00000000 ........ 0038 10000000 00000000 ........ 10000000 00000000 ........ 0040 f6000000 01000000 ........ f6000000 01000000 ........ 0048 0008fa90 90f6c280 ........ 0008fa90 90f6c280 ........ 0050 00000000 ea597c00 .....Y|. 00000000 ea597c00 .....Y|. 0058 0031c08e d88ed0bc .1...... 0031c08e d88ed0bc .1...... 0060 0020fba0 407c3cff . ..@|<. 0020fba0 407c3cff . ..@|<. 0068 740288c2 52be7f7d t...R..} 740288c2 52be7f7d t...R..} 0070 e83401f6 c2807454 .4....tT e83401f6 c2807454 .4....tT 0078 b441bbaa 55cd135a .A..U..Z b441bbaa 55cd135a .A..U..Z 0080 52724981 fb55aa75 RrI..U.u 52724981 fb55aa75 RrI..U.u 0088 43a0417c 84c07505 C.A|..u. 43a0417c 84c07505 C.A|..u. 0090 83e10174 37668b4c ...t7f.L 83e10174 37668b4c ...t7f.L 0098 10be057c c644ff01 ...|.D.. 10be057c c644ff01 ...|.D.. 00A0 668b1e44 7cc70410 f..D|... 668b1e44 7cc70410 f..D|... 00A8 00c74402 01006689 ..D...f. 00c74402 01006689 ..D...f. 00B0 5c08c744 06007066 \..D..pf 5c08c744 06007066 \..D..pf 00B8 31c08944 04668944 1..D.f.D 31c08944 04668944 1..D.f.D 00C0 0cb442cd 137205bb ..B..r.. 0cb442cd 137205bb ..B..r.. 00C8 0070eb7d b408cd13 .p.}.... 0070eb7d b408cd13 .p.}.... 00D0 730af6c2 800f84ea s....... 730af6c2 800f84ea s....... 00D8 00e98d00 be057cc6 ......|. 00e98d00 be057cc6 ......|. 00E0 44ff0066 31c088f0 D..f1... 44ff0066 31c088f0 D..f1... 00E8 40668944 0431d288 @f.D.1.. 40668944 0431d288 @f.D.1.. 00F0 cac1e202 88e888f4 ........ cac1e202 88e888f4 ........ 00F8 40894408 31c088d0 @.D.1... 40894408 31c088d0 @.D.1... 0100 c0e80266 890466a1 ...f..f. c0e80266 890466a1 ...f..f. 0108 447c6631 d266f734 D|f1.f.4 447c6631 d266f734 D|f1.f.4 0110 88540a66 31d266f7 .T.f1.f. 88540a66 31d266f7 .T.f1.f. 0118 74048854 0b89440c t..T..D. 74048854 0b89440c t..T..D. 0120 3b44087d 3c8a540d ;D.}<.T. 3b44087d 3c8a540d ;D.}<.T. 0128 c0e2068a 4c0afec1 ....L... c0e2068a 4c0afec1 ....L... 0130 08d18a6c 0c5a8a74 ...l.Z.t 08d18a6c 0c5a8a74 ...l.Z.t 0138 0bbb0070 8ec331db ...p..1. 0bbb0070 8ec331db ...p..1. 0140 b80102cd 13722a8c .....r*. b80102cd 13722a8c .....r*. 0148 c38e0648 7c601eb9 ...H|`.. c38e0648 7c601eb9 ...H|`.. 0150 00018edb 31f631ff ....1.1. 00018edb 31f631ff ....1.1. 0158 fcf3a51f 61ff2642 ....a.&B fcf3a51f 61ff2642 ....a.&B 0160 7cbe857d e84000eb |..}.@.. 7cbe857d e84000eb |..}.@.. 0168 0ebe8a7d e83800eb ...}.8.. 0ebe8a7d e83800eb ...}.8.. 0170 06be947d e83000be ...}.0.. 06be947d e83000be ...}.0.. 0178 997de82a 00ebfe47 .}.*...G 997de82a 00ebfe47 .}.*...G 0180 52554220 0047656f RUB .Geo 52554220 0047656f RUB .Geo 0188 6d004861 72642044 m.Hard D 6d004861 72642044 m.Hard D 0190 69736b00 52656164 isk.Read 69736b00 52656164 isk.Read 0198 00204572 726f7200 . Error. 00204572 726f7200 . Error. 01A0 bb0100b4 0ecd10ac ........ bb0100b4 0ecd10ac ........ 01A8 3c0075f4 c3000000 <.u..... 3c0075f4 c3000000 <.u..... 01B0 00000000 00000000 ........ 00000000 00000000 ........ 01B8 4e544c44 52206973 NTLDR is 4e544c44 52206973 NTLDR is 01C0 74206b6f 6d707269 t kompri 74206b6f 6d707269 t kompri 01C8 6d696572 74000d0a miert... 6d696572 74000d0a miert... 01D0 4e657573 74617274 Neustart 4e657573 74617274 Neustart 01D8 206d6974 20537472 mit Str 206d6974 20537472 mit Str 01E0 672b416c 742b456e g+Alt+En 672b416c 742b456e g+Alt+En 01E8 74660d0a 00000000 tf...... 74660d0a 00000000 tf...... 01F0 00000000 00000000 ........ 00000000 00000000 ........ 01F8 83a8b6ce 000055aa ......U. 83a8b6ce 000055aa ......U. ntfs_boot_sector 1 * HPFS - NTFS 0 0 55 9407 93 54 151129314 NTFS, 77 GB / 72 GiB NTFS at 0/0/55 NTFS at 0/0/55 filesystem size 151129314 sectors_per_cluster 8 mft_lcn 786432 mftmirr_lcn 16 clusters_per_mft_record -10 clusters_per_index_record 1 Boot sector Status: OK Backup boot sector Status: OK Sectors are identical. A valid NTFS Boot sector must be present in order to access any data; even if the partition is not bootable.
No, I didn't.
I think I will try to reinstall grub2, maybe it helps....
EDIT:
I stopped being a coward an reinstalled grub2. Different menu, so I am using grub2 now. I still get the same error though...Last edited by tyho; 10-03-2010 at 07:30 AM.


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