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Well this one comes about at the junction of a couple of needs for the wife. 1) The hardware I currently have her on is dying. 2) She has some ...
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    My new project: 2 cents welcome


    Well this one comes about at the junction of a couple of needs for the wife.

    1) The hardware I currently have her on is dying.
    2) She has some top notch hardware that's been gathering dust b/c it needed a new harddrive; which it now has.
    3) She's branching out in to some areas where she needs more capabilities than she currently has. Needs which would best be served by a tight intergration of *nix and doze.

    I'm debating if I should use my X-Gnome 12.04.4 remix or Ubuntu 14.04.1 as the base?

    X-Gnome:

    Pros: I know it like the back of my hand, it's already got every tool and tweak in it I could ever use, I've got a recovery tool that will pull any and all data out of if it crashes and remastersys still works on it so I can move the most up to date version to any hardware if needed.

    Cons: Over all power management is kind of wonky due to base issues in 12.04 plus my cobbeling stuff together. I had to get hackety and install a couple of apps and write some scripts to smooth things over a bit amd make it functional. But it's still a power hog, runs a little hot and sucks batteries dry. That doesn't matter too much on mine as I run it mostly in stationary mode off of AC power with a cooling pad. But hers will be used in 100% portable mode. Plus, since I built it out myself there are the ocassional gaps of stuff that I can't get to work smooth and have to hack my way around. I.E. lots of little stuff like installing guest additions in to a VM has to be done CLI with the right switches b/c the autorun GUI program that's supposed to do it will crash the X11 server. Stuff like that is no problem for me. But it's just one more set of things for a novice+ / mid-level user to deal with.

    14.04.1

    Pros: Supposedly they've made great strides in power management and systems are supposedly running cooler and longer now. Plus all the little stuff that is supposed to just work should and she shouldn't have to have my big list of copy / paste if / then CLI notes to get basic stuff to work. And there's a huge list of big fixes for .1 that in theory should mitigate a lot (or hopefully all) of the negative stuff I've written here about 14.04. Plus you get all the upsides from longer EOL date / newer versions of stuff in repos, etc.

    Cons: It's missing a lot of what I consider to be basic tools, tweaks and hardening. I don't get any where near as paranoid on her machine as I do on mine. But she's not doing any of the deep end stuff that I'm doing either. So when she web surfs it's straight on her hardware with java on the machine and I take steps to make that as safe as possible but don't force her to web surf in a specially configured VM (although she does banking in a special VM). So they'll be a lot less tweaking needed on hers. But I'll still have quite a bit of work cut out for me to plug all of the basic holes that UB leaves open OOB. And I'll also want to dig out the LTS kernel for reasons already discussed elsewhere and all of the privacy crap as well.

    The basis of the project will be this tutorial: HowTo Integrate Windows Apps into the Ubuntu Linux Desktop using Windows RemoteApp .

    And if I go 14.04.1 I'll need to do a lot this stuff as well. Plus solve the remasterys issue. (Yes, I know there are tons of ways to backup a system. I like being able to create an installer that will move my OS to any hardware.)

    Either way I go I'm looking at a lot of work and just wanting to get some opinions on what will produce a better result.

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    Just giving you a look see Steven_G

    Code:
    harry@biker1:~$ cat /etc/issue.dpkg-old
    Linux Lite 2.0 LTS \n \l
    $ inxi -Fxz
    System:    Host: biker1 Kernel: 3.13.0-24-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) 
               Desktop: Xfce 4.11.6 (Gtk 2.24.23) Distro: Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
    Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: Presario CQ57 Notebook PC version: 068C110003204910000620100
               Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 version: 24.48 Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: F.42 date: 11/07/2011
    CPU:       Dual core AMD C-50 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 3991.34 
               Clock Speeds: 1: 1000.00 MHz 2: 1000.00 MHz
    Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6250] bus-ID: 00:01.0 
               X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz 
               GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD PALM GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
    Audio:     Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 
               Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-24-generic
    Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller 
               driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 06:00.0
               IF: em1 state: down mac: <filter>
               Card-2: Ralink RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci ver: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 07:00.0
               IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter>
    Drives:    HDD Total Size: 121.3GB (3.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: APPLE_SSD_SM128 size: 121.3GB 
    Partition: ID: / size: 8.6G used: 3.3G (40%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 103G used: 476M (1%) fs: ext3 
    RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
    Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.5C mobo: N/A gpu: 59.0 
               Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
    Info:      Processes: 152 Uptime: 3:34 Memory: 509.7/3638.0MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 
               Client: Shell (bash 4.3.11) inxi: 1.9.17 
    harry@biker1:~$ inxi -v1
    System:    Host: biker1 Kernel: 3.13.0-24-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.11.6 Distro: Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
    CPU:       Dual core AMD C-50 (-MCP-) clocked at 1000.00 MHz 
    Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6250] 
               X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz 
               GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD PALM GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3
    Drives:    HDD Total Size: 121.3GB (3.3% used)
    Info:      Processes: 152 Uptime: 3:34 Memory: 509.9/3638.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.17 
    ~$ inxi -r
    Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
               deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
               deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
               deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted
               deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted
               deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
               deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
               deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe
               deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe
               deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
               deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
               deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse
               deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse
               deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
               deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
               deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted
               deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted
               deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe
               deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe
               deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse
               deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse
               deb http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty partner
               deb http://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite/ beryl main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ehoover-compholio-trusty.list
               deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ehoover/compholio/ubuntu trusty main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
               deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ trusty main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-talkplugin.list
               deb http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ trusty main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libreoffice-ppa-trusty.list
               deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mumble-release-trusty.list
               deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mumble/release/ubuntu trusty main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/otto-kesselgulasch-gimp-trusty.list
               deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/otto-kesselgulasch/gimp/ubuntu trusty main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam.list
               deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ trusty steam
               deb-src [arch=amd64,i386] http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ trusty steam
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/team-xbmc-ppa-trusty.list
               deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
               Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-wine-ppa-trusty.list
               deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    $ cat /etc/debian_version
    jessie/sid
    No hiccups so far. YMMV from mine. As always. Temps are a little high because the laptop is in my recliner chair on my lap without the colling pad.
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