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Ever since three system updates early this morning my Ubuntu 6.10 system started acting up, crashing Thunderbird and eventually Firefox,too.. grrreat! At some time or other it also did a ...
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    strange Twilight Zone behaviour?


    Ever since three system updates early this morning
    my Ubuntu 6.10 system started acting up, crashing Thunderbird
    and eventually Firefox,too.. grrreat!

    At some time or other it also did a force check
    and came up with a red fail sign: very encouraging.

    Eventually it crashed BAD and I had to do something called fsck
    and hit the Y key a few dozen times
    (has this system never heard of Heal Yourself like modern computer systems do?)

    What's going on?
    did anyone else have these problems after this Sat. morning's updates,
    or is it just mine that malfunctioned??


    I also notice that Firefox will no longer keep my settings(under View) for Toolbars.
    Every time I start it, it reverts ...back to the default settings.
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    Could have been caused by Automatix, or some similar software. Mine upgraded perfectly. Did fsck tell you about any errors?
    'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.'
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    Automatix ?

    Automatix was one of the three updates this morning.
    Funny u should say that: it went thru my mind,too

    I like to think that now that Automatix is a year older
    and up to a v.2, a year better
    that it has improved itself,as all software does(?) (-tends to..)
    but maybe I'm fooling myself..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_man
    Did fsck tell you about any errors?
    LOTS. and all kinds.
    I must've pressed the y(yes) key 2-3 doz. times
    as it asked to clear this and that...

    but I think that was after correcting the errors
    re. things trying to occupy the same space...multiply/multiple listings???
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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_man
    Could have been caused by Automatix, or some similar software.
    Took the hint, and have now un-installed Automatix2
    as a safety precaution.
    I reckon I can always re-install it,later, if need be
    by which time it should have got a bit better.

    Can anyone say what's wrong with Automatix(in its present form or function)
    that it still carries seeming emotional baggage around with it.?
    Most ppl give dire warnings re. Automatix,
    but I sense that bad rep,. was earned in its early days:
    it must've screwed up ppl badly to engender such dislike,even now!
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    ^^^ The problem with it is that it installs things in ways that change the system and could really mess it up when Ubuntu updates. The link I posted is written by the CTO of Ubuntu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_man
    The problem with it is that it installs things in ways that change the system
    and could really mess it up
    when Ubuntu updates.
    The link I posted is written by the CTO of Ubuntu.
    Thanks very much,TechMan.

    .............from the link.....................

    On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 03:00:40PM -0800, Constantine Evans wrote:
    Warnings about Automatix would probably offend quite a few people.

    Automatix is developed entirely without input from, or cooperation with,
    the development team, and the last time I looked at it,
    it made some very questionable modifications to the system
    which are likely to cause problems for official packages.

    I wrote up some of my findings in the common-customizations specification.

    I cannot recommend the use of this program,
    and systems where it has been used cannot be supported with a clean and official upgrade path.

    --
    - mdz

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    Having read that, I'm glad now that I un-installed it.
    Thanks for the knowledge.

    What beats me is that such an auto-installer is indeed a handy thing
    for newbies and Windows refugees like myself,
    so how come someone doesn't do an alternative "Automatics" that works the right way??

    I also had EasyUbuntu installed,
    but the scope of things it offered seemed limited compared to what Automatix offered.
    Maybe I'll re-install EasyUbuntu.. I've had no dire warnings about that.
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