I've been an Ubuntu user for years

Interesting, since Ubuntu was founded on July 1st 2005. Your time must pass a lot faster than mine

My LAPTOP screen is badly aligned during 1st boot after installation of FC6.I am not able to see the Next,Back buttons on WELCOME Screens and the following screens.

Has anyone faced this kind of problem.

I tried installing FC6 (purchased DVD)on a new HP AMD dual core server.
Right from the start the video and hrdw discovery prevented using the graphical interface. Text install resulted in an unusable X due to the resolution and half the screen hidden. Command line to set resolution resulted in the same barely usable screen. Changed resolution settings refused to stick no matter where they were applied.

YUM caused numerous problems trying to install too many poorly labeled and often unnecessary updates at once.
I did get it reasonably stable after a couple of installs.
However, all attempts at getting this to function as a local mail and storage server became a nightmare.

The straw that broke the camel's back was a single update (a program designed for load balancing multi-processor systems installed by default) that caused the final crash.
This program may be fine for those who really enjoy getting under the hood on a regular basis, but for a stable small server OS it is much less costly to buy a real Red Hat OS.
Sorry guys Fedora just don't cut it.

Pls guide

If you want a more featureful GUI frontend for yum you might want to install yumex which is similar in layout to synaptic from Debian/Ubuntu.

If you want a more featureful GUI frontend for yum you might want to install yumex which is similar in layout to synaptic from Debian/Ubuntu.

The tools shipped by default are there to do one task and do it in a simple and easily understandable manner. I think Pirut is quite nice if all I want to do is browse the available software, install, remove and such (I track development so Pup/puplet are my main sources of yum interaction in the gui).

Regardless Fedora does cater to every kind of user or try to, so try yumex if you want more features and crack. You can also check out the wealth of yum plugins in the repos, they add a lot of functionality to yum itself that you might like, such as downloadonly, selecting fast current mirrors automatically, etc.

You can also set the options for your compiz, it's a bit tricky currently as a nice way to expose the configuration options hasn't been determined GUI wise AFAIK. You need to install gconf-editor and poke in the apps/compiz section, every key is amply documented and changes take effect at once so you can play with the incremental settings as you apply them. Ultimately I would agree this kind of thing needs to be tighter bound to the rest of the Fedora desktop settings environment in a smart and natural way, as for Compiz plugin settings maybe an experts tools to expose all the gconf keys would be nice for some people or sliding scales under the enable buttons (sorta like Enable Wobbly Windows, adjust wobbliness on slider underneath).. dunno I'm sure this will be worked on by the collective Linux community over the next 6 months so that FC7 will be even better in this area.

Additional information on the FC6 release, it is the base of the largest Linux deployment ever, One Laptop Per Child as well as the upcoming Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5. Fedora has also provided the base to the Linux that will ship with every PS3, though that's based on FC5. So you are in fine company using Fedora and rest assured that we do everything in our power to bring you the best experience possible.

I would have loved to see you mention that Fedora is not only giving users blingy crack like cubed desktops and wobbly windows but also the most secure out of the box desktop Linux available. It's comes with multiple proactive security deployments that go way beyond just a firewall. Security is important and one of the best things I can say about the things the Fedora Project deploys is that you didn't even notice, it doesn't get in your way yet it adds a nice few layers of protection.

Secure, visually stunning, fast, userfriendly and stable.. pick any five.

- David Nielsen, Fedora advocate

But Redhat doesn't want users really using Fedora, they want them using paid Redhat releases that include all the ugly closed source applications you could ever want.

After the installation it can not be used for work, it can not be used for entertainment. It is a HARMFUL distro for a novice user, and useless for an experienced one.

- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files

Don't compare a windows install to a linux install, because an average windows user know how to install his/her favourite mp3 or movie player, etc. under windows.
Would You change your home to an empty one where You cannot take your favourite furnitures and equipments?
Would You change your home to a fully equipped one?
All I wanted to say that Fedora is a half-equipped "flat" and there are "flats" that are more equipped than Fedora.

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Don't compare a windows install to a linux install, because an average windows user know how to install his/her favourite mp3 or movie player, etc. under windows.
Would You change your home to an empty one where You cannot take your favourite furnitures and equipments?
Would You change your home to a fully equipped one?
All I wanted to say that Fedora is a half-equipped "flat" and there are "flats" that are more equipped than Fedora.

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Please, if you compare, do it good. The fact that an average Windows user knows what to do to get mp3 to play, doesn't hide the fact that an average Linux user knows how to do this in Linux. In fact, install Windows XP fresh out of the box for your novice grandma and I am sure she has no clue how to get mp3's to play in Windows.

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- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files

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I have a question, how long have it been since you installed windows on a box. I have recently installed WinXP on my relatively plain Athlon XP system.
- doesn't play mp3 or divx (need to download Media player for mp3 and codecs for DivX)
- doesn't open PDF files
- doesn't allow viewing or editing Excel or Word documents
- doesn't mount any of my linux partitions (and I am relatively sure it wouldn't mount MacOS parition either if I had one)
- doesn't have C/C++ compiler, make, python, ruby, perl, any sort of decent shell. More or less doesn't have any development software except for windows scripting host.
- doesn't play encrypted DVDs (need to either buy a player or download the same VLC as everyone uses in linux)

After installing either Ubuntu or Fedora I get office suite, PDF reader, music player (no mp3 support, but oggs play fine), groupware client and a whole lot of other useful programs. Yes, I still have to install support for proprietory formats, but except for flash plugin, I have to do the same in windows.

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- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files

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I have a question, how long have it been since you installed windows on a box. I have recently installed WinXP on my relatively plain Athlon XP system.
- doesn't play mp3 or divx (need to download Media player for mp3 and codecs for DivX)
- doesn't open PDF files
- doesn't allow viewing or editing Excel or Word documents
- doesn't mount any of my linux partitions (and I am relatively sure it wouldn't mount MacOS parition either if I had one)
- doesn't have C/C++ compiler, make, python, ruby, perl, any sort of decent shell. More or less doesn't have any development software except for windows scripting host.
- doesn't play encrypted DVDs (need to either buy a player or download the same VLC as everyone uses in linux)

After installing either Ubuntu or Fedora I get office suite, PDF reader, music player (no mp3 support, but oggs play fine), groupware client and a whole lot of other useful programs. Yes, I still have to install support for proprietory formats, but except for flash plugin, I have to do the same in windows.

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- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files

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I have a question, how long have it been since you installed windows on a box. I have recently installed WinXP on my relatively plain Athlon XP system.
- doesn't play mp3 or divx (need to download Media player for mp3 and codecs for DivX)
- doesn't open PDF files
- doesn't allow viewing or editing Excel or Word documents
- doesn't mount any of my linux partitions (and I am relatively sure it wouldn't mount MacOS parition either if I had one)
- doesn't have C/C++ compiler, make, python, ruby, perl, any sort of decent shell. More or less doesn't have any development software except for windows scripting host.
- doesn't play encrypted DVDs (need to either buy a player or download the same VLC as everyone uses in linux)

After installing either Ubuntu or Fedora I get office suite, PDF reader, music player (no mp3 support, but oggs play fine), groupware client and a whole lot of other useful programs. Yes, I still have to install support for proprietory formats, but except for flash plugin, I have to do the same in windows.

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With that in mind, .exe files scare the heck out of me.

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- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files

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I have a question, how long have it been since you installed windows on a box. I have recently installed WinXP on my relatively plain Athlon XP system.
- doesn't play mp3 or divx (need to download Media player for mp3 and codecs for DivX)
- doesn't open PDF files
- doesn't allow viewing or editing Excel or Word documents
- doesn't mount any of my linux partitions (and I am relatively sure it wouldn't mount MacOS parition either if I had one)
- doesn't have C/C++ compiler, make, python, ruby, perl, any sort of decent shell. More or less doesn't have any development software except for windows scripting host.
- doesn't play encrypted DVDs (need to either buy a player or download the same VLC as everyone uses in linux)

After installing either Ubuntu or Fedora I get office suite, PDF reader, music player (no mp3 support, but oggs play fine), groupware client and a whole lot of other useful programs. Yes, I still have to install support for proprietory formats, but except for flash plugin, I have to do the same in windows.

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With that in mind, .exe files scare the heck out of me.

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- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files

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I have a question, how long have it been since you installed windows on a box. I have recently installed WinXP on my relatively plain Athlon XP system.
- doesn't play mp3 or divx (need to download Media player for mp3 and codecs for DivX)
- doesn't open PDF files
- doesn't allow viewing or editing Excel or Word documents
- doesn't mount any of my linux partitions (and I am relatively sure it wouldn't mount MacOS parition either if I had one)
- doesn't have C/C++ compiler, make, python, ruby, perl, any sort of decent shell. More or less doesn't have any development software except for windows scripting host.
- doesn't play encrypted DVDs (need to either buy a player or download the same VLC as everyone uses in linux)

After installing either Ubuntu or Fedora I get office suite, PDF reader, music player (no mp3 support, but oggs play fine), groupware client and a whole lot of other useful programs. Yes, I still have to install support for proprietory formats, but except for flash plugin, I have to do the same in windows.

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- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files

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I have a question, i can't play mp3 or divx & dvd moveis in my fedoracore 6 version. How to install the software in linux without network.

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I exaggerated a little. It is not a useless distro, of course.
BUT! Let's take a windows user who wants to try a linux distro. It has a good chance that he or she will try Fedora, because RedHat is a big name in the linux world.
After the installation, the user
- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files (mp3, divx, wmv, ...)
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It also has a good chance, that this user will be disappointed in linux because the first distro he/she tried, lacks neccessery features. This is why I wrote, that this distro is harmful for a novice user. There are other distros that solve these problems better.

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I exaggerated a little. It is not a useless distro, of course.
BUT! Let's take a windows user who wants to try a linux distro. It has a good chance that he or she will try Fedora, because RedHat is a big name in the linux world.
After the installation, the user
- cannot mount NTFS partitions
- cannot utilize fully his/her VGA card
- cannot play the most of the media files (mp3, divx, wmv, ...)
...

It also has a good chance, that this user will be disappointed in linux because the first distro he/she tried, lacks neccessery features. This is why I wrote, that this distro is harmful for a novice user. There are other distros that solve these problems better.

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Not sure when you last tried Fedora although from the sound of it probably not recently. Do what the average user would do (aka a Google search for "fedora mp3" or "fedora dvd" and see what the first thing to come up is. Even most windows users could follow these directions.

Yes you may not get iTunes, MS Office or half the other stuff on Windows, but hey you also are not paying $$$ so most people will be happy with what they get.

Unfortunately, the FC6 is not After the installation it can not be used for work, it can not be used for entertainment.

A computer is a general device that can be used for many things, even for entertainment.
In my country, a modern game console or a DVD player with HDD almost costs as much money as my PC. I'm not a rich person, I haven't got money to have such a DVD player or game console.
RedHat is one of the most prominent company of the linux world, they did much investment and development on linux. I think they can and they should produce something better than this.

hi im new to linux and am very interested in learning about it but am having trouble booting from the fedora core 6 dvd iso ,ive burnt it onto dvd using nero burn rom and set my bios to boot from cd/dvd

Hi back. You need to burn is as a disk image, not let nero create the disk image: it is worth the change over. The web page has instructions on this, as does the ubuntu and simplymepis pages.

I began using flavors of unix back in the 80s. My first experience with it was using SCO Xenix. Not long after, I got ot use AT&T Unix, AIX, and a few other flavors. My first TCP/IP module for SCO cost me $699.00 US. The same price as the OS. Down through the years I've used really very few licences or distributions. When Linux became somewhat more mainstream I started to use RedHat. Very Very briefly I used some other distros just to try them out. At that time, I actually paid for Redhat, I think around $80US. That was for the boxed set of one CD and the actual printed manuals. This was long before the Fedora project.

Even then, it was a very usefull OS. All the things you needed were included and if you spent some time, it all worked. Back in those days, you spend a lot of time in ED and VI. (Don't ask me why but I really preferred vi to some of the GUI editors.)

It goes without saying that Linux (all flavors) has grown up. I spend virtually all of my time sitting in front of a Windows PC. Either Win98 or WinXP boxes. I am typing this on an XP system now. As I type this, there's two taskbar ICONs here, Opera and VNC. VNC is connected to my FC5 Server which, while I never sit in front of (it has no monitor) I do spend a LOT of time logged into or Using.

Back in the days of RedHat 3,4,5,6,7,8... Then into Fedora Core 1,2,3 and 4, I really never would have considered completely eliminating my windows systems. I remember saying to several people shortly after the FC5 upgrade I did (no reinstall, upgrade) that I truely felt that I could get rid of Windows. permanantly. FC5 was the first OS I had seen that made me feel as if anyone could sit down and use this (as a user) and enjoy their computing. The Media formats are not a big deal to me, even though I have a zillion MP3 files.

It suprises me that there are folks here who feel that RH (FC) is not a user friendly OS. I guess it really depends upon what you're looking for but I for one am looking for FC to be a server first, play system second. In reality, that's really what it is intended to be and it fills that nitche very well. At times, I agree with a lot of the posters above who say to choose another distro for beginners. I don't have enough experience with that sort of thing really and I'll trust the opinions but for ease of installation, smooth operation and support, I think RedHat is hard to beat.

OH, and don't forget that when you go to www.redhat.com that they have a knowledge base that you can search for EVERYTHING under the sun to do with FCx. If you search for something that has no answer there, please let me know.

I have been using fedora core for a number of years now and the only reason I go back to windows is to play games (which isn't that often).

I did find the learning curve steep and yes you do need to spend some time downloading the various rpms to get your multimedia working.

All that said I find fedora to be a cracking OS and an ideal beginner distro for the reason that you actually have to learn something. It teaches people how to use google and to learn on their own.

All my application that I use to use under windows have either Linux counterparts or can be run under wine.

All this said, I do agree with the point that people aren't going to download the latest distro as it can be a pain to download a couple of days worth of rpms.

Again all this said as soon as I have any problems so bad that I reinstall the OS I an going to download the latest core in both 64bit for my PC and i386 for my laptop. After all I don't work 24/7 and I can spare the bandwidth while I sleep.

hi im new to linux and am very interested in learning about it but am having trouble booting from the fedora core 6 dvd iso ,ive burnt it onto dvd using nero burn rom and set my bios to boot from cd/dvd i have tryed several attepts and cannot get it to boot im not sure if it is compatabe with my system as i am using scsi hard drives with adaptec interface card which windows xp needed a aditional driver for however my problem for the moment is getting it to boot just wondering if im using the wrong program for burning please respond thanks

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A computer is a general device that can be used for many things, even for entertainment.
In my country, a modern game console or a DVD player with HDD almost costs as much money as my PC. I'm not a rich person, I haven't got money to have such a DVD player or game console.
RedHat is one of the most prominent company of the linux world, they did much investment and development on linux. I think they can and they should produce something better than this.

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I'm relatively new to Linux. I'm a power computer user I guess - power user meaning that I know what I should be able to do and I know google will help me find a way... and I'm persistent and patient - but not a developer. I don't write code and have no 'real' use for that aspect of the linux value. I've installed, Kubuntu, Mandriva One 2007, and now Fedora Core 6. This guy isn't saying that Fedora Core 6 sucks, he's saying that as a proficient linux user, he's not going to download the new distro and overwrite his current one every 6 months to a year... people don't do that. Geeks, however will download them and install them on secondary partitions, as we all probably have. But if you are busy with life, perhaps that install time is time you'd rather not spend at the computer. And Fedora is known to those who know to be "stripped" but not very many people are in that "know" - I'm trying to setup a machine to do general, all purpous web surfing on one monitor and run a media center (freevo) on a TV simultaneously. I first tried Mandriva and was pretty happy with my learning curve... I had the 3D desktop and my extra packages going shortly by following some instructions I had googled. But I had to draw on my Mac knowledge to get through the command line process. Then I tried setting up the dual monitors... and failed after spending too many hours trying to get it going. I had found references to the ability with Fedora so I waited a week for the release and installed FC 6. I now have Dual head monitors without incident. But Fedora's GUI-based packet management and availible applications on the default repository suck in comparison to Mandriva 2007. I'm pack to google and cutting and pasting the yum instructions (as oppossed to the urpmi for mandriva) but they must have missed a step in their description for setting up more repositories so I'm back to google again. And I can't just go to VLC and get the program and double click for installation, so it is a pain in the ass... and in the end, this is supposed to be fore someone who's vastly less persistent and computer savvy than I, so I would be just evil to throw them into this world. In a way, he's right, it's not the distro for the for the novice who doesn't really have the time to invest in reprogramming his brain the hard way. If anyone wants to help the novices, create an installer for repositories, so that a google search for "(linux distro name) repositories" would bring up a page with a list and description of different repositories and contents and a simple click would install whatever's needed into the packet manager so it could be searched from the GUI... The Gui packet management system is a great idea but if you have to run to the command line to get it working, it fails. Personally, I think linux won't be for the casual computer user until it makes command line access an option, not a requirement. It's just something people have to ease into.

yeah, I know you guys just LOVE your FC but really, accept the truth... it's not for everyone.. in fact it's for very very few!

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A computer is a general device that can be used for many things, even for entertainment.
In my country, a modern game console or a DVD player with HDD almost costs as much money as my PC. I'm not a rich person, I haven't got money to have such a DVD player or game console.
RedHat is one of the most prominent company of the linux world, they did much investment and development on linux. I think they can and they should produce something better than this.

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I'm relatively new to Linux. I'm a power computer user I guess - power user meaning that I know what I should be able to do and I know google will help me find a way... and I'm persistent and patient - but not a developer. I don't write code and have no 'real' use for that aspect of the linux value. I've installed, Kubuntu, Mandriva One 2007, and now Fedora Core 6. This guy isn't saying that Fedora Core 6 sucks, he's saying that as a proficient linux user, he's not going to download the new distro and overwrite his current one every 6 months to a year... people don't do that. Geeks, however will download them and install them on secondary partitions, as we all probably have. But if you are busy with life, perhaps that install time is time you'd rather not spend at the computer. And Fedora is known to those who know to be "stripped" but not very many people are in that "know" - I'm trying to setup a machine to do general, all purpous web surfing on one monitor and run a media center (freevo) on a TV simultaneously. I first tried Mandriva and was pretty happy with my learning curve... I had the 3D desktop and my extra packages going shortly by following some instructions I had googled. But I had to draw on my Mac knowledge to get through the command line process. Then I tried setting up the dual monitors... and failed after spending too many hours trying to get it going. I had found references to the ability with Fedora so I waited a week for the release and installed FC 6. I now have Dual head monitors without incident. But Fedora's GUI-based packet management and availible applications on the default repository suck in comparison to Mandriva 2007. I'm pack to google and cutting and pasting the yum instructions (as oppossed to the urpmi for mandriva) but they must have missed a step in their description for setting up more repositories so I'm back to google again. And I can't just go to VLC and get the program and double click for installation, so it is a pain in the ass... and in the end, this is supposed to be fore someone who's vastly less persistent and computer savvy than I, so I would be just evil to throw them into this world. In a way, he's right, it's not the distro for the for the novice who doesn't really have the time to invest in reprogramming his brain the hard way. If anyone wants to help the novices, create an installer for repositories, so that a google search for "(linux distro name) repositories" would bring up a page with a list and description of different repositories and contents and a simple click would install whatever's needed into the packet manager so it could be searched from the GUI... The Gui packet management system is a great idea but if you have to run to the command line to get it working, it fails. Personally, I think linux won't be for the casual computer user until it makes command line access an option, not a requirement. It's just something people have to ease into.

yeah, I know you guys just LOVE your FC but really, accept the truth... it's not for everyone.. in fact it's for very very few!

A computer is a general device that can be used for many things, even for entertainment.
In my country, a modern game console or a DVD player with HDD almost costs as much money as my PC. I'm not a rich person, I haven't got money to have such a DVD player or game console.
RedHat is one of the most prominent company of the linux world, they did much investment and development on linux. I think they can and they should produce something better than this.

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A computer is a general device that can be used for many things, even for entertainment.
In my country, a modern game console or a DVD player with HDD almost costs as much money as my PC. I'm not a rich person, I haven't got money to have such a DVD player or game console.
RedHat is one of the most prominent company of the linux world, they did much investment and development on linux. I think they can and they should produce something better than this.

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Hi,
You can download the nesessary codecs to play mp3, dvd, vcd cd and other codecs from rpm.livna.org. simply download rpm file from their site and run it from your console. it will get appended to your YUM file and also to your Add/Remove programs. remember to add Urls in the yum repository file. from add/remove programs download VLC media player. That's it Play music/watch movies on your PC Enjoy....
if you are using KDE in fedora also download KYum it is a GUI for yum in Kde..
Hope it was useful

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Unfortunately, the FC6 is not After the installation it can not be used for work, it can not be used for entertainment.

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you should rethink your intentions. Linux is an OS. if you want entertainment there are modern things in the world like the TV, stereo, iPOD, game consoles, etc. to use an OS for entertainment!? geez!

But Redhat doesn't want users really using Fedora, they want them using paid Redhat releases that include all the ugly closed source applications you could ever want.

hi,
i have not worked that much in linux.....so forgive me for mistakes.
earlier i was using FC(fedora core)-2 and start menu items were diplayed properly.
i downloaded FC-6 and installed with genome desktop, but start menu items are not displayed.....
please let me know the solution for this....
thanks in advance

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hi,
i have not worked that much in linux.....so forgive me for mistakes.
earlier i was using FC(fedora core)-2 and start menu items were diplayed properly.
i downloaded FC-6 and installed with genome desktop, but start menu items are not displayed.....
please let me know the solution for this....
thanks in advance

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Hi, I had a problem with the previious installation of FC6, I had some kind of memory leak, so I re-installed and set swap up to 800MB, but now, I cant enable the Desktop Effects, I get this message while enabling
<Desktop effects could not be be enabled
> any tip ? because I hope I just need to upgrade/install some package, by the way,I already update, and I haver the livna and freshrpms repos..

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Hi, I had a problem with the previious installation of FC6, I had some kind of memory leak, so I re-installed and set swap up to 800MB, but now, I cant enable the Desktop Effects, I get this message while enabling
<Desktop effects could not be be enabled
> any tip ? because I hope I just need to upgrade/install some package, by the way,I already update, and I haver the livna and freshrpms repos..

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